Brock Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 From Kathy O: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Speaking of the Elsa Maxwell of Westport, there is a potentially interesting book coming out about the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/Inventing-Elsa-Maxwell-Irrepressible-Conquered/dp/0312699441/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348898271&sr=1-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Speaking of the Elsa Maxwell of Westport, there is a potentially interesting book coming out about the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/Inventing-Elsa-Maxwell-Irrepressible-Conquered/dp/0312699441/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348898271&sr=1-9 Well now, THAT sounds interesting indeed! SHE WAS THE HOSTESS WITH THE MOSTEST OF THEM ALL, or so went the song. Picture Ethel Merman, but with more nerve and sound, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Well now, THAT sounds interesting indeed! SHE WAS THE HOSTESS WITH THE MOSTEST OF THEM ALL, or so went the song. Picture Ethel Merman, but with more nerve and sound, LOL! Have you ever seen a picture of Elsa? She looked like Marie Dressler. Very homely and full bosomed. Elsa was on Jack Paar and expressed disapproval that Elvis Presley had autographed some young gal's chest. Hermoine Gingold retorted: "He could write a three-act play on hers!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Have you ever seen a picture of Elsa? She looked like Marie Dressler. Very homely and full bosomed. Elsa was on Jack Paar and expressed disapproval that Elvis Presley had autographed some young gal's chest. Hermoine Gingold retorted: "He could write a three-act play on hers!" LOL! That's when talk shows were interesting, guests had more to talk about than just shill their latest GIG, people had funny stories and they weren't told in advance with every word planned, they were off the cuff, so comments like the one above happened all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Correction, the hostess with the mostess was Pearl Mesta, more like the character played by Ethel Merman in Call Me Madam. And you're right Neil, If Marie Dressler had a sister, she'd look just like Elsa Maxwell, google her and find out, although why anybody would want to google her, i'll never know, LOL! Another lesbian by the way, she left everything to her partner. She started treasure hunts and scavenger hunts at parties, introduced Rita Hayworth to Aly Khan, and Aritotle Onassis to Maria Callas. She even made moves on Maria herself who was forty years younger than her, but was rebuffed. She was also a songwriter and a gossip columnist among other things. Maybe she competed for news with the other lesbian columnist of the day, Louella Parsons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 She was also a songwriter and a gossip columnist among other things. Maybe she competed for news with the other lesbian columnist of the day, Louella Parsons. Louella's daughter was a lesbian, but I don't think Louella herself was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Louella's daughter was a lesbian, but I don't think Louella herself was. Some reports in certain books say she was, maybe she was a flexible bi. I always looked at that pic of her with Lucy and wondered . . . lemme go google her to see of there's any mention of it in her bio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 I stand corrected, no mention of it in her bio, although I HAVE read it more than one place, i think i mixed her up with Big Bang Theory's Jim PARSONS! LOL! They look so much alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Homley would be a good word. I had to Google her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Homley would be a good word. I had to Google her. Homely, yes, in the grand tradition of some very good actresses of that era, Beulah Bondi, Marie Dressler which i think Neil mentionned, Zasu Pitts for a skinnier version . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Some reports in certain books say she was, maybe she was a flexible bi. I always looked at that pic of her with Lucy and wondered . . . lemme go google her to see of there's any mention of it in her bio. I'm pretty sure Louella wasn't gay at all; Harriet (her daughter, now deceased) titled her (still unpublished) autobiography "I Never Told Mother" re her lesbianism apparently because she feared her disapproval. I've always wondered why this book has never surfaced; Harriet told Marilyn Beck or some columnist that she was writing the book back around 1979, she passed away in 1983. Perhaps she didn't get that far in writing it but it certainly seems it would have had a potential market given I think it would have been the first Hollywood celebrity autobiography to open discuss the person's homosexuality. Not improbable though that some "writer" may have gotten Louella mixed up with Harriet in some scandal book, so many of those books are absolute jokes that seem written by fourth-grade dropouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I'm pretty sure Louella wasn't gay at all; Harriet (her daughter, now deceased) titled her (still unpublished) autobiography "I Never Told Mother" re her lesbianism apparently because she feared her disapproval. I've always wondered why this book has never surfaced; Harriet told Marilyn Beck or some columnist that she was writing the book back around 1979, she passed away in 1983. Perhaps she didn't get that far in writing it but it certainly seems it would have had a potential market given I think it would have been the first Hollywood celebrity autobiography to open discuss the person's homosexuality. Not improbable though that some "writer" may have gotten Louella mixed up with Harriet in some scandal book, so many of those books are absolute jokes that seem written by fourth-grade dropouts. True, but i thought i also saw it on that Wiki LIST of all those in Hollywood or beyond who were gay, lesb or bi, but sure enough both you and Brock seem right, she appeared nowhere. Her bio says she was married THREE times, then again Cary Grant was married FIVE times and contrary to what his daughter thinks, everybody else in Hollywood says he was gay, or bi. Randolph Scott could tell us but he's gone too, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Saw her today as Cynthia Harcourt in Lucy is Envious and was amazed at how different she looks, i mean this is the same lady who portrayed the plane passenger and Betty Ramsey all right but she sounds and looks so different. Great actress. And that great accent of pretentiousness too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I love to compare Cynthia to Mary Jane by the end of Here's Lucy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I love to compare Cynthia to Mary Jane by the end of Here's Lucy. Not because of her voice being similar, i'm sure, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Who was she married to on Lucy's show again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Who was she married to on Lucy's show again? TLS producer Elliot Lewis. How cute! Cleo betwixt MJ and Jackie Cooper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 TLS producer Elliot Lewis. How cute! Cleo betwixt MJ and Jackie Cooper! She must have lost a lotta weight, I can't even see her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 She must have lost a lotta weight, I can't even see her. You can't see the damn dog??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leenorman Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 You can't see the damn dog??? :gary: :gary: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 You can't see the damn dog??? Now I can, I thought that was part of Mary Jane's coat, you know how bad us old timers see at OUR age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Guest-starring on Mr. Adams & Eve with Ida Lupino and Howard Duff: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Guest-starring on Mr. Adams & Eve with Ida Lupino and Howard Duff: Used to watch that show, as well as HIS other series, which I forget the name of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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