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    And then a documentary film crew shows up and this becomes a better story than Grey Gardens. "They can get you for wearing red shoes on a Thursday...it's a mean, nasty Republican town."
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    I can’t believe SAG couldn’t squeeze Kaye into the In Memoriam! 😨😡 THIIIIIS IS THE THANKS SHE GETS!! And I think it’s rotten. ROTTEN!!!
  5. 3 points
    Carol and Kaye in the same week: I can't take any more.... Kaye Ballard: typecast as the loud Italian: something she did very well and hilariously but she had an untapped dramatic range. I once saw a video (from I don't remember where but it was black and white from the 50s) in which she did very serious scene with someone and was amazingly effective. Desi did not augment the laugh track on Mothers In Law and it's KAYE that gets the most enthusiastic audience response. Here's my old tribute to Kaye on MIL. At the end Kaye sings. In the plot, the Hubbards and Buells invest in a rock band and this is Kaye's suggestion for a song to put in their act.......followed by the song written specifically for her act by Kander and Ebb, later incorporated into you-know-what and associated with you-know-who. Then her rendition of "My Man" from her hit album of Fannie Brice songs. It was her idea to turn this into a Broadway musical, done some 10 years later.
  6. 2 points
    When Here's Lucy ended in 1974, Broadcast Magazine reported about it saying that Lucy's show has "not kept up with the times, still relying on old-school slapstick while shows like All in the Family and Maude deal with relevant social issues". Were they suggesting Here's Lucy be more "relevant" in the way that Lear's shows were? So what if Norman Lear had taken over when Milt Josefsburg left in 1972, changing the title and titillating up the plots. (Desi Jr: "Where was he when we did the Ann-Margaret episode??") I'm sure MOT will chime in with possible racy "Lear's Lucy" episodes, but in the meantime here's my contribution: "No Nudes is Good Nudes" The marina raises her rent so Kim scans the classifieds for a 2nd job and answers an ad looking for "liberal-minded" models. Kim had recently watched a TV interview with her lookalike Lucille Ball, who advised aspiring actors to "take anything that comes along like I did. Don't turn anything down. " When the photographer turns out to be working for "Hustler", Kim heeds Lucille Ball's advice and does what she is told, assuming no one she knows will see "the spread". But Kim's aghast when the issue comes out and she finds she's on the cover, prominently displayed at every newsstand in Encino, prompting all her former one-episode suitors, except Wayne Newton and Jim Bailey, to seek to rekindle their romances with her. Kim confesses to Uncle Harry and they both panic when Harry realizes that he has had his Hustler subscription sent to the office (so he can write it off as business expense). The two try in vain to keep the magazine from Lucy who, when she takes one look, does her "spider". Steaming mad, Lucy Carter then sets out to punch special guest star Larry Flynt in the nose. (and also give "Miss Ball" a piece of her mind). The name Lucy Carter is well known in the celebrity world so Flynt has been expecting a visit. It seems Flynt has the negatives from an old nude photo shoot attributed to Lucille Ball, though the name on the negative sheet is that of "Lucy Hinkley". When Miss Ball got wind of it, she sued Flynt claiming "that's not me. It's the lookalike contest winner: 'that motor-mouthed, scatterbrained Carter woman'". Meanwhile Cynthia Duncan claimed the pics were of her. "Wanna see proof?", said Duncan when she showed up at the Hustler photography studio in a very revealing negligee ready to pose for a sequel spread. Just as Lucy Carter's winding up for a punch, Flynt confronts her with one of the more provocative stills from the old black-and-white shoot, and Lucy does her 2nd "spider" of the episode. Episode promo: "So who is the young nude model? Is it Lucy Carter, Lucille Ball or Cynthia Duncan? Tune in tonight on CBS for the premiere of "Lear's Lucy" and find out!" (followed by the season premiere of another show Lear has taken over, making its Monday night debut, now called "The Nude Dick Van Dyke Show" pronounced the same way as the series title from the previous season.)
  7. 2 points
    I found this lovely hardcover, Bosom Buddies, in an obscure gift shop last night: https://www.amazon.com/Bosom-Buddies-Celebration-Friendships-throughout/dp/1452168393/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Bosom+Buddies&qid=1549639577&rnid=2941120011&s=Books&sr=1-1 Lucy and Carol Burnett are profiled inside and I was happy to see they have depicted Carol alongside an era-appropriate Lucy rather than Lucy Ricardo. I'd post pictures but by phone is not cooperating. Will try again later, but the art is quite lovely.
  8. 2 points
    Open a Rear Window: Hitchcock takes over as "Mame" director CBS/FOX Video to feature "Drafted, Lucy Goes to a Rodeo" on "The I Love Lucy Collection: Volume 37" CBS/FOX recalls Lucy volume 37 due to lack of sales
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    Nice recap, although this punction error makes it seem like Ol’ Bubblemaker was there. Other stage and show business luminaries in attendance included Ballard's dear friend Gavin MacLeod, Lawrence Welk, "Champagne Lady" Roberta Linn, actors Sal Mistretta and Michael Dante, singers David Christopher and Frank DiSalvo, NBC Palm Springs newscaster Gino LaMont and Rita Vale, wife of the late singer, Jerry Vale.
  10. 2 points
    "Lucy Gets Slummy With the Neighbors" Upset that Betty and Ralph Ramsey are letting their home fall into disrepair, Lucy attempts to teach them a lesson by junking up the outside of her home. The plan backfires when some of the cars parked on blocks in the front yard turn out to be reported as stolen.
  11. 2 points
    I think it all depends on the person. I've heard from a few over the past few days who knew her that thought she was fun and happy in these past few years. I did hear she was getting ill around the end of last year and wasn't seeing as many people. I wouldn't take one person's experience as that's how she always was.
  12. 2 points
    KAYE BALLARD SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR..... TONYs: When Kaye's "Golden Apple" played Broadway, they named winners but no nominations--I'm not sure there was even a supporting category yet. For the 60-61 season, unfortunately Tony rules were changed: LEAD in a musical required the actress's name being above the title on the marquee. Any other actress in any show, be they the STAR or not, was categorized as "Featured" , the category that replaced "supporting".. Elizabeth Seal won for "Irma La Douce" , Channing for "Show Girl", Julie for "Camelot and Nancy Walker for "Do Re Mi"......I know nothing of Elizabeth Seal, but Nancy's role in "Do", I would categorize as somewhere between lead and supporting. (Phil Silvers was THE lead). I don't know when Tony nominations came out in relation to Wildcat's run but no nomination for Lucy is one of those things that will forever be lodged in my near-capacity-filled CRAW. This is the season that Kaye was such a big hit in "Carnival" and surely would have received a nomination and very possibly a WIN had the leads in Bye Bye Birdie (Dick Van Dyke) and Molly Brown (Tammy Grimes) been in the category they rightfully belonged in (LEAD) and not the ridiculous "featured" category by virtue of the technicality of the stupid rule. They both won. EMMYs: "The Mothers In Law" was not the type of show the Emmys embraced, but look at the actual best comedy nominees during these 2 years: 2 nominations for the badly aging "Bewitched", 2 for "Family Affair", 2 for "Get Smart" (the winner both years), 1 each for Hogan's Heroes, Julia, Ghost and Mrs. Muir and The Lucy Show. The following is a just IMO analysis. "Bewitched" had lost a lot of its charm by then (its 4th and 5th season); "Get Smart" was amusing but TWO 'Best" Awards? I say: only by default; I never saw an episode of "Heroes"; and only have a scant memory of "Ghost and Mrs." (which NBC had CANCELED). With that enticing premise, I probably watched "Ghost" at the beginning but it must have been extremely dull or laugh-less for me to lose interest. I wouldn't have traded "The Lucy Show"'s one nomination for anything but I would have nominated it in ANY of the other 5 seasons over this one. And I say "Julia" was nominated only because of the publicity of the first black woman to be the lead in a "sitcom" (ignoring the early 50s "Beulah") If they say Julia was a comedy, I have to take their word for it, I guess....same for "Family Affair", which I would nominate only as Best Sitcom For Those Suffering From Insomnia. But look at the Best Actress in Comedy nominations. I don't see why Kaye (or Eve for that matter) shouldn't have scored a nomination, despite what the Academy thought of "MIL". Again Lucy's 1968 win: while I love the fact that she won 2 in a row, I don't consider her performances this season as stellar (and can't really say why). Her snub for season 2: stored in aforementioned craw; I wish Liz had won in 1966 over MTMoore for Dick Van Dyke Show. She deserved it then. But by 1968, someone had decided to make her more of a comedienne and she was less effective at that (I would go so far as to say "annoying"); Diahann Carroll's Julia was not exactly an acting challenged--Diahann's nominated for same reason described above for series. Not knocking the lovely, likable Hope Lange but the dull "Ghost" did not tap her talents--and TWO wins in a row---JEEZ!!!; Barbara Feldon was cute and appealing but nomination as LEAD?--I say no; the buzz was that quirky Paula Prentiss would win for the one season "He and She", the season's critic's darling. Its Best Comedy snub was surprising. I think Lucy took the undeserved backlash for winning a second time over newcomer Paula and that's the reason Lucy was never nominated again. I can't argue with poor Marlo Thomas, nominated for 4 of That Girl's 5 seasons, losing all. With that said, I think Kaye Ballard was as equally deserving of a nomination as those that got them. Try picturing any of the other nominees (excepting Lucy of course) livening up MIL material. While Mothers In Law wasn't as consistently high-rated as Kaye has said ("It was cancelled when it was #14", she said often), at #40 (or so, if memory serves) for its 2nd season at a time when the networks had some 100 shows, it was the highest rated show BY FAR to be cancelled at the end of the 68-69 season. The cast left for the break assuming they'd be back for season 3. It was one of the last to be cancelled by a sponsor Proctor & Gamble who, if I'm understanding it correctly, owned that Sunday 8:30 time slot. But why didn't another network pick it up, as they did with the lower rated "Ghost and Muir"? Scuttlebutt has it that Desi, bless him, was just too hard to work with by that time for another network to take on a show whose ratings were good but not great. His alcoholism trumped his better judgement, sometimes throwing his weight around like he was still as influential as he was in his Desilu days. I do wish Desi had gotten around to "Another Book" as promised. I think his post-Lucy/Desilu years were harder on him than he let on. Those who worked with him (that did not suffer the wrath of his hair-trigger temper) speak of him, Kaye included, in consistently loving and glowing terms afforded no other producer in TV history. But back to Kaye: there's no reason that audience-pleasing Kaye could not gone on to her own "Kaye Ballard Show". Possible premise: Kaye runs an Italian restaurant along with (and living with) her loving but brow-beaten father and her dominating, disapproving, acid-tongue mother. (which describes Kaye's real life mother). But WHO could have played the mother? For those who made it to the end of my blathering, sorry. I didn't mean for this post to go on so long, but I had a personal, if sporadic, relationship with Kaye and her passing has upset me greatly. She used to call me occasionally---a real thrill when it happened. My thoughts today are of her. I only wish she had had the higher profile career deserving of someone with her enormous talent. But grateful that she got to see the premiere of the documentary about her. And the positive response and long-overdue attention. Hopefully we'll all get to see it eventually. The few clips I've seen look great (a virtual one-man production by our own enormously talented Dan Wingate, an occasional poster to our board). It would be a perfect inclusion for a Mothers In Law marathon by the Decades channel.
  13. 2 points
    We're all heartbroken down here about Carol and Kaye, but there's one heck of a double act playing "up there" right now. She certainly had good luck with her mouth.
  14. 1 point
    Last night was truly a magical evening! Lucie was absolutely incredible. It was like time stood still in 1979. She looked and sounded just as she did 40 years ago. Actually, she was even better! She stopped the show with “I Still Believe in Love.” Robert Klein really impressed me. He sounded great. Lots of Lucy/Lucie fans were present, along with Tommy Tune, Tony Danza, Elaine Joyce, Anita Gillette, and much of the Luckinbill family. The audience was clearly having the best time!
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    I missed the first of the episode but in it Joan has to get rid of some excess dresses. She goes to a dress shop to snatch customers with "Tell ya what I'm gonna do". I guess the IMJ people were counting on viewers who didn't have TV sets during the 51-52 season. (Joan debuted in the fall of 1952), and there were a lot of them. I read that my hometown Portland, considered a major metropolitan market, did not get a TV station until '52 (and at first there was only one), so we missed the entire first season. IMJ lasted only 3 seasons but was one of the first successes in syndication; the first to run episodes 5 days a week. It was a huge success; its 98 episode were run by local stations well into the 60s. Yes, the show is a bit of a hush-push but I find something endearing about Joan herself. She tries SO hard.
  16. 1 point
    CBS promo during the Super Bowl used the iconic eye to represent their shows from the 50s to now. Lucy and Ricky started it off.
  17. 1 point
    Comma usage has gotten so slapdash. It seems people either use too many or not enough; there's no in-between anymore.
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    Some details on Kaye’s memorial service: https://amp.desertsun.com/amp/2703230002 In related news, Our Dan Wingate needs a publicist.
  19. 1 point
    These What's My Line?'s are from the 5-day-week syndicated version, which looked a little cheap compared to the original run's classy glamour. Someone obviously saved the original videotapes! The original WML ran from 1950 to 1967 and this 5/week one went from 1968 until 1975, so WML had 24 seasons. I don't know where they found this Wally Bruner guy. Talk about your dud emcee. It's obvious Wally was not a Mothers In Law viewer. Kaye sang on the show a LOT. The much-more appropriate Larry Blyden took over as emcee in 1972. Bennett Cerf also appeared on the syndicated version. Cerf died in 1970. With the strange nature of syndication distribution, he kept popping up on WML's for a year after his death. Not getting a movie was not good for Kaye but if she was going to not get one, this would be the one to not get. "Lovers and Other Strangers" must have played better on stage. I've seen the movie...once--and only to see a pre-Maude Bea...and found it dullsville. I don't think it was a success. I see "Kay" dropped the "e", supposedly her numerologist's recommendation for the "Molly" marquee (or so rumor has it). "Molly" was a huge disappointment for Kay(e) running only 3 months. I've got an audio recording of the show. The house seems full and the audience is loving it. But I guess the era of the homespun, heart-warming musical had passed. "Molly" might have had a chance 10 years earlier. Throughout the 50s, 60s and into the 70s, it was standard practice to release Broadway musicals on LP, including most of the failures. ("Anyone Can Whistle" with only NINE performances was recorded and released by Columbia in the deluxe gatefold album format!) Broadway musicals as best selling albums: that era had also passed by 1973. 1961's "Wildcat" stayed on the Billboard album "top" charts from its January release through August of 1961 even though the musical had closed the first part of June, selling upwards of 100,000 copies. "Molly" with 108 performances should have been preserved on record. She got to do the inspirational number from the show "Go in the Best of Health" in costume on Carol Burnett's Show. Years later, she recorded many of the songs for a Kaye Ballard album (not officially an "original cast recording"). Like "Wildcat", "Molly" played at the Alvin and featured Swen Swenson in the cast.
  20. 1 point
    We've started re-watching The Mothers-in-Law in Kaye's honor. It's been a while since I've seen it, so it's fun to be experiencing it again. Max remembers it from its original run in Australia - he says it was a "must-watch" in his family's household.
  21. 1 point
    For Gales' birthday this year on my Instagram I'd like to put together a highlight reel of the best times Gale gets wet on They Lucy Show and Here's Lucy. There are just so many and I can't remember them all so I need a little help with suggestions. So list your favorite below and I'll try to get in as many as I can in 1min (IG time limit). I'll post a link to the video on his birthday here. I'm also considering a video of the Dinah and Merv Griffin where they talk about his nickname.
  22. 1 point
    Thanks for that list. The wetter the better. So many ways Gale got wet. I think the submarine hatch is the one that comes to my mind first and I think it's pretty original.
  23. 1 point
    Some of Gale’s wetter moments: Lucy at Marineland (fall into pool) Lucy and the Submarine (water from open submarine hatch) Lucy and Phil Silvers (watercooler down the pants) Lucy and Sheldon Leonard (bucket of water in the face) Lucy and Eva Gabor (water from hose; bucket of paint) Lucy the Fixer (water from pipe in the face) Lucy and the Indian Chief (pitcher of water spilled on pants) Lucy Runs the Rapids (fall into the river) Lucy Protects Her Job (watercooler) Lucy Takes Over (watercooler) Lucy the Crusader (water from wetting doll in face) Lucy Loses Her Cool (seltzer sprayed) Lucy Stops a Marriage (seltzer sprayed) Lucy and Aladdin’s Lamp (wet ceiling collapse) Lucy Makes a Few Extra Dollars (ice tea spilled; watercooler) Lucy and the Celebrities (pitcher of water dumped on head) Lucy’s Replacement (coffee and cream in the face) Harrison Carter, Male Nurse (ice tea spilled all over) A Home is Not an Office (bucket of paint) Lucy and Her Prince Charming (pitcher of water dumped on head) Harry Catches Gold Fever (pushed into river)
  24. 1 point
    Buzzr put together a nice compilation of some of Kaye's game show appearances: To Tell the Truth with Bette Davis from 1966, What's My Line? from 1969 (with Betty White!), and What's My Line? from 1973. The 1969 one is particularly fun and interesting. Kaye says The Mothers-in-Law was cancelled even though it was in the top 40. She was right - it was ranked #40, but the highest rated show to be cancelled that year. Kaye was currently filming the movie Lovers and Other Strangers and she raves about the project and every one of the cast members. Kaye was fired from the movie with the explanation she looked too young to play the mother. She was replaced by Bea Arthur. One of the many examples of Kaye losing out on a big break.
  25. 1 point
    The White Queen has received the Brandon Tartikoff Award from Jennifer Love Hewitt: http://www.justjared.com/2019/01/24/betty-white-receives-a-legacy-award-from-jennifer-love-hewitt/
  26. 1 point
    If you want to review on of Kaye's best Mothers In Law episode, I suggest Episode #43 from season 2: "Didn't You Used to Be Ossie Snick?" with guest star Ozzie Nelson.
  27. 1 point
    That Dessert Sun piece is really good and very informative about how HUGE a career she had. So happy that she got to see her documentary get such high honors. I'd suggest any other legends over 90 to stay away from Palm Springs this year. It doesn't seem like a safe place for them right now.
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    The time line is fuzzy for me too. I think they met in June of 1940 and it was only a few weeks earlier that Desi showed up in LA. Now if he happen to hit LA with Cugart's band or any other time he was passing through then it's entirely possible he had a day off and went to the track. Of course in those early weeks in 1940 he could have gone to the track too.
  30. 1 point
    If there is another number in any musical that inspires the same audience reaction as the "Hello Dolly" number, I can't think of it. It makes you glad to be there, glad to be alive and wanting to run onstage and join the waiters singing to her (or depending on your gender or leanings, want to get into her costume and descend those stairs to the opening bars of the song). Many wonderful actresses played Dolly on Broadway, each bringing their own charm to the role, including Phyllis Diller!. Her run was short--3 months--by all accounts she gave a great performance. But none captured the pure joy of the title song more than Carol Channing. The term one-of-a-kind is thrown around a lot but Channing was certainly that. A theater historian whose accuracy I trust told me that David Merrick made a personal visit to Roxbury Drive to try to talk Lucy into doing a limited run on Broadway. Said historian thinks this was about 1966. Lucy's memories of the rigors of "Wildcat" were probably still too fresh in her mind--but what a thrill that would have been had I been old enough to hitchhike the 3000 miles to Broadway. Interesting that the Dollys in the revival were so much older than the originals. The equivalent today in relation to the ages of the 60s Dolly's would be Tina Fey, Amy Poeler or Julia-Louis Dreyfus and none of them seem old enough for Dolly. Bette and Bernadette could be the mothers of all of 60s Dollys (except Merman: possible but a stretch). The 60s equivalent of the ages of the revival's well-preserved Bette and the even more well-preserved Bernadette would be the 1960s versions of Madge Blake, Lillian Gish, Isabel Randolph, Eleanor Audley, Norma Varden or Kathryn Card! And I mean "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" Kathryn, not Mrs. McGillicuddy--Bern and Bette are over 10 years older than that one. Chew on THAT! 70 really is the "new 50". Re: the wonderful What's My Line? "LuvsBway" posted. Lucy, Ginger, Carol, Dorothy and Arlene were still at their peak of glamour. Lucy's voice-disguise is the same one she used to impersonate Channing in "Countess/Undercover Agent" the next season! 1965 was one of those watershed years. Sadly, 3 months (and a few days) later Dorothy would be dead, the main reason for my WML obsession. Very few Broadway musical offerings from that point on would capture "Hello Dolly"'s exuberance . A perfect musical and I have to say, my all-time favorite. (I love Gypsy, but for different reasons). I'll never forget taking my newly purchased "Dolly" LP home, not knowing anything about Channing, and hearing THAT VOICE for the very first time.
  31. 1 point
    The teenager is implied to be Steven Spielberg and there’s more holes in that story than in Swiss cheese.
  32. 1 point
    A very happy 97th birthday to the White Queen!
  33. 1 point
    That's my biggest issue with the film. It looks beautiful and it's got a solid cast, but the pacing and direction could've been tighter.
  34. 1 point
    Works for me! Any famous gal that promotes / shares fandom with "our" gal is a-okay by me!
  35. 0 points
    I Married Joan's SECOND episode in the fall of 1952 was entitled "Ballet". The plot made NO sense, even by IMJ standards. Three actors who had already appeared on I Love Lucy were in the cast. The original premise for IMJ was that the judge would be counseling a couple about their problems which would lead him into describing some related Joan antics. In this episode the married people at the beginning of the episode were Doris Singleton.....married to BOBBY JELLISON!! Seems wife Doris needs more energy (?!). Judge Jim Backus then describes how he solved this by sending Joan to ballet school (?!--#2) in a scene VERY reminiscent of Lucy's ballet--including a stern instructor (Florence Bates-?!-#3) and Joan getting carried away and doing the Charleston. End of scene. The rest of the episode had NOTHING to do with ballet. Brad is bringing home an important judge for dinner...BUT earlier that day, his car splashes a puddle and ruins the dress of a young woman (who I THINK is Jane Kean) so he takes her into a department store to buy her another dress and runs into the same judge---(yes, at the store: ?!-#4). To explain why he's with this young woman, Brad tells the judge that SHE is Mrs. Stevens and brings her home with predictable confusion. Meanwhile Joan gets a call from an old boyfriend (LEIF ERICKSON!!), who used to be a pro football player, who's in town so she invites him over too. (And this point: WHY NOT?) And then they, for no particular reason, re-enact some of his greatest football game moments in the Stevens living room. A dizzyingly pastiche of a storyline. Before you call me daft, looney, off my rocker, out of my head-----here's my proof: I found the episode on Youtube with these strange "woo-woo" opening credits.
  36. 0 points
    Our beloved Kaye Ballard has passed away. https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2019/01/22/kaye-ballard-dies-at-93-rancho-mirage/2620474002/
  37. 0 points
    Noooooo! Clive Swift, who played Richard Bucket on Keeping Up Appearances, has died at 82. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/02/01/clive-swift-classically-trained-actor-rsc-best-known-television/
  38. 0 points
    A spectacular talent who had “IT” until the end. It’s one of my greatest thrills seeing her last show in New York in 2012. She was even better than I could have ever imagined.