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  1. A genius has left us. 😢





    Carl Reiner, Multifaceted Master of Comedy, Is Dead at 98

    Mr. Reiner was a gifted comic actor, but he spent most of his career slightly out of the spotlight — writing, directing and letting others get the laughs.



    Carl Reiner, who as performer, writer and director earned a place in comedy history several times over, died on Monday night  at his home in Beverly Hills. He was 98. 

    His death was confirmed by his daughter, Annie Reiner.

    Mr. Reiner first attracted national attention in 1950 as Sid Caesar’s multitalented second banana on the television variety show “Your Show of Shows,” for which he was also a writer. A decade later he created “The Dick Van Dyke Show,” one of the most celebrated situation comedies in television history, and teamed with Mel Brooks on the hugely successful “2000 Year Old Man” records. His novel “Enter Laughing” became both a hit Broadway play and the first of many movies he would direct; among the others were four of Steve Martin’s early starring vehicles.

    He won praise as an actor as well, with memorable roles in films like “The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming” and, more recently, “Ocean’s Eleven” and its sequels. But he spent most of his career just slightly out of the spotlight, letting others get the laughs.

    His contributions were recognized by his peers, by comedy aficionados and, in 2000, by the Kennedy Center, which awarded him the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor. He was the third recipient, after Richard Pryor and Jonathan Winters.

    In his performances with Mr. Brooks and before that with Mr. Caesar, Mr. Reiner specialized in portraying the voice of sanity, a calm presence in a chaotic universe. But despite his claim to the contrary, he was never “just the straight man.”

    “He was a comedian himself, and he truly understood and still understands comedy,” Mr. Caesar said of Mr. Reiner in his book “Caesar’s Hours” (2003), written with Eddy Friedfeld. “Most people still don’t realize the importance of a straight man in comedy, or how difficult that role is. Carl had to make his timing my timing.”

    Mr. Reiner was, Mr. Caesar added, “the best straight man I’ve ever worked with.”

    As part of a stellar supporting cast that also included Imogene Coca and Howard Morris, Mr. Reiner proved his versatility week after week on “Your Show of Shows,” which ran from 1950 to 1954 on NBC and established the template for sketch comedy on television. He played everything from a harried commuter to a frenzied rock ’n’ roller to an unctuous quiz-show host. But he is probably best remembered as an interviewer, solemnly posing questions to a mad professor, a spaced-out jazz musician or some other over-the-top character played by Mr. Caesar, and adding to the humor simply by being serious.

    Mr. Reiner contributed behind the scenes as well. He took part in the frenzied writing sessions that shaped the show, bouncing jokes off the walls of the writers’ room with the likes of Mr. Brooks and Neil Simon.

    Sam Falk/The New York Times

    “I became a writer because of that room,” he recalled. “I’d say something and somebody would yell: ‘What do you know? You’re not a writer.’ So I became a writer.”

    He characterized his later career moves with similar self-effacing humor in an NPR interview: “I acted like a director. I acted like a producer. I sat in front of a typewriter and acted like a novelist.”

    Mr. Reiner’s association with Mr. Caesar encompassed three different series: After “Your Show of Shows” the two worked together on “Caesar’s Hour,” which had a three-year run on NBC, and “Sid Caesar Invites You,” a failed attempt to recapture the “Show of Shows” spirit that lasted less than one season on ABC in 1958.

    The Party Piece

    The next phase of Mr. Reiner’s career found him again in the role of deadpan interviewer. This time the interviewee was Mr. Brooks.

    “The 2000 Year Old Man” began as an act Mr. Reiner and Mr. Brooks performed for friends at parties. When they put in on record, it became a phenomenon. There were ultimately five “2000 Year Old Man” albums, one of which won a Grammy and all of which are treasured by comedians and comedy fans.

    Mr. Brooks was the star of the largely improvised routines, reflecting on what it was like to be two millenniums old (none of his thousands of children ever visited) and reminiscing about historical figures like Sigmund Freud (“He was a good basketball player; very few people know that”) and Shakespeare (“He had the worst penmanship I ever saw in my life”). But it was Mr. Reiner who came up with the questions that lit Mr. Brooks’s comedic fuse.

    Indeed, it was Mr. Reiner who spontaneously started the ball rolling one day during a quiet moment in the Caesar writers’ room. “I turned to Mel and I said, ‘Here’s a man who was actually seen at the crucifixion 2,000 years ago,’” he told The New York Times in 2009, “and his first words were ‘Oh, boy.’”

    D. Gorton/The New York Times

    “I always knew if I threw a question to Mel he could come up with something,” Mr. Reiner said. “I learned a long time ago that if you can corner a genius comedy brain in panic, you’re going to get something extraordinary.”

    As Mr. Brooks put it, “I would dig myself into a hole, and Carl would not let me climb out.”

    In 1960, the same year he and Mr. Brooks made their first album, Mr. Reiner wrote and starred in a pilot for a TV series, based on his own life, about a writer who works in New York for a larger-than-life, difficult-to-please comedian.

    The show, “Head of the Family,” was not picked up. It became a series only when it was recast with Dick Van Dyke as the central character.

    The workplace scenes in “The Dick Van Dyke Show” — featuring Morey Amsterdam and Rose Marie as Mr. Van Dyke’s fellow writers, with Mr. Reiner making occasional appearances as their boss — were inspired by Mr. Reiner’s time with Sid Caesar (although Mr. Reiner insisted that his character was only partly based on Mr. Caesar). The domestic scenes, with Mary Tyler Moore as Mr. Van Dyke’s wife, were set in New Rochelle, N.Y., where Mr. Reiner lived at the time, and Ms. Moore’s character was modeled on his wife, Estelle. Mr. Reiner later attributed the show’s success to the choice of “somebody with more talent to play me.”

    Seen on CBS from 1961 until 1966, “The Dick Van Dyke Show” won a total of 15 Primetime Emmy Awards for its cast and crew, five of them for Mr. Reiner as writer and producer. (He won nine Emmys in his career, including two for his on-camera work on “Caesar’s Hour,” one as a writer on a 1967 special that reunited the “Show of Shows” cast and one for a guest appearance, as Alan Brady, on an episode of the sitcom “Mad About You” in 1995.) It is widely regarded as one of the greatest sitcoms of all time.

    CBS, via Getty Images

    Someone else once again played Mr. Reiner, or a character very much like him, on Broadway and in the movies. “Enter Laughing,” his autobiographical novel about a stage-struck delivery boy from the Bronx who decides to become an actor, was published in 1958 and adapted for the stage by Joseph Stein, another former member of the Caesar writing staff. With Alan Arkin in the lead role, it opened in 1963 and ran for more than 400 performances.

    When “Enter Laughing” was sold to Hollywood, Mr. Reiner shared screenwriting credit with Mr. Stein for the 1967 film adaptation, starring Reni Santoni. It was Mr. Reiner’s third produced screenplay, after “The Thrill of It All” (1963) and “The Art of Love” (1965). More important, it was the first film he directed.

    That same year he made his Broadway debut as a writer and director with “Something Different,” the story of a playwright suffering from writer’s block. It received generally good reviews (Walter Kerr of The New York Times praised Mr. Reiner’s “nifty habit of approaching a gag at high speed, passing it on the outside, and then noticing where it went in the rearview mirror”) and had a respectable three-month run. By that time, however, Mr. Reiner’s focus had shifted westward.

    He had already appeared in a number of Hollywood movies by the time he and his family moved to Beverly Hills in the late 1960s, and he would continue to show up onscreen occasionally. But for the next three decades, most of his work in Hollywood was done behind the scenes.

    From Actor to Director and Back

    Carl  Reiner was born in the Bronx on March 20, 1922, to Irving Reiner, a watchmaker, and Bessie (Mathias) Reiner. After graduating from Evander Childs High School in the Bronx, he went to work as a machinist’s helper and seemed headed for a career repairing sewing machines.

    Then one day his older brother, Charlie, mentioned seeing a newspaper article about a free acting class being given by the Works Progress Administration, the New Deal jobs agency. Carl tried his hand at acting, found he was good at it, hung up his machinist’s apron and joined a theater troupe. He also acted in summer stock.

    During World War II, Mr. Reiner served in an Army entertainment unit that toured American bases in the South Pacific. After his discharge he joined the road company of the musical revue “Call Me Mister” as the comic lead, and within a year he was in the Broadway production.

    In the 1949-50 television season he was a regular on “The Fifty-Fourth Street Revue,” a variety series, and in 1950 he was back on Broadway in “Alive and Kicking,” where he caught the eye of Max Liebman, the mastermind of “Your Show of Shows.”

    Mr. Reiner married Estelle Lebost in 1943. She died in 2008.

    In addition to his daughter, an author and psychoanalyst, he is survived by his sons, Rob, known for directing “When Harry Met Sally,” “A Few Good Men,” “This Is Spinal Tap” and numerous other films and for his role as Archie Bunker’s son-in-law on the groundbreaking sitcom “All in the Family,” and Lucas, a painter and filmmaker;  and five grandchildren.


    Mr. Reiner’s first major box-office success as a director was “Oh, God!” (1977), starring George Burns as a very down-to-earth deity. Two years later he teamed with Steve Martin, then at the height of his fame as a comedian, for what proved to be a mutually rewarding collaboration.

    Mr. Reiner first directed Mr. Martin in “The Jerk” (1979), a film largely inspired by Mr. Martin’s manic stand-up act. The critical response was lukewarm, but the movie was a box-office smash and now often shows up on lists of the best American comedies. 

    “The Jerk,” “Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid” (1982), “The Man With Two Brains” (1983) and “All of Me” (1984) defined Mr. Martin’s onscreen persona as a lovable goofball and made him a movie star. They also established Mr. Reiner as an imaginative director — especially “Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid,” a black-and-white spoof of film noir set in the 1940s, in which he integrated vintage clips featuring actors like Humphrey Bogart and Barbara Stanwyck into the action.

    Mr. Reiner returned to Broadway twice after moving west, but neither visit was triumphant. In 1972 he directed “Tough to Get Help,” a comedy by Steve Gordon about a black couple working in an ostensibly liberal white household, which was savaged by the critics and closed after one performance. In 1980 he staged “The Roast,” by Jerry Belson and Garry Marshall, two writers he had worked with on “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” That play, about a group of comedians who expose their darker instincts when they gather to roast a colleague, ran for less than a week

    The movies he directed after he stopped working with Mr. Martin — among them “Summer Rental” (1985), with John Candy, and “Sibling Rivalry” (1990), with Kirstie Alley and Bill Pullman — did only somewhat better. In his 70s, he decided that filmmaking demanded “just too much energy.” He gave it up after making “That Old Feeling” (1997), with Bette Midler and Dennis Farina.

    But he remained active in front of the camera, notably as a crook lured out of retirement by the prospect of sharing in the loot from a Las Vegas casino robbery in Steven Soderbergh’s 2001 remake of the Frank Sinatra caper film “Ocean’s Eleven.” He reprised the role in “Ocean’s Twelve” (2004) and “Ocean’s Thirteen” (2007).

    On television he had recurring roles on the sitcoms “Hot in Cleveland” and “Two and a Half Men” and guest-starred on “Parks and Recreation,” “House” and other series. He also did voice-over work for a number of cartoon shows.

    Mr. Reiner wrote a number of books in addition to “Enter Laughing,” including novels, children’s books and several memoirs, among them “My Anecdotal Life” (2003), “I Remember Me” (2013) and “Too Busy to Die” (2017). His daughter said another book would be published soon.

    In 2017 he was prominently featured in “If You’re Not in the Obit, Eat Breakfast,” a documentary about people who remained active into their 90s. And in his last years he maintained an active Twitter account, which he used primarily for political commentary. 

    A photo showing Mr. Reiner, Mr. Brooks and Annie Reiner wearing “Black Lives Matter T-shirts” was posted on Twitter this week.

    Toward the end of “I Remember Me,” Mr. Reiner said a friend of his had recently asked if he had thought about retiring. Noting that his role on “Hot in Cleveland” gave him “the opportunity to kiss Betty White — thrice — and on the lips,” he offered a succinct response:

    “Retire? I may be old, but I am not crazy!”

    Derrick Bryson Taylor contributed reporting.





    I'm absolutely in shock. He was tweeting up a storm yesterday (and it was definitely always him sending out those tweets!) and did an interview in the last week. He was the greatest!

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  2. A 16mm network print of The Lucille Ball Comedy Hour has popped up on eBay. This includes the "lost" Pepsodent advertising Lucy did. This could not be found when the special was released on The Lucy Show second season DVD set. I hope whoever purchases this can make this available. 







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  3. 17 hours ago, Neil said:

    PBS's American Master ran a 90 minute biography of Mae West that was quite good.   And everything considered they were pretty kind to Mae's 1978 vehicle "Sextette".  Look up "Mae West Sextette Wardrobe Tests" on youtube.  The slate is dated 8/26/76.  The footage is silent but Mae seems to have it much more together than she did in the movie.  My theory is that Mae had a slight stroke (or something else) between the wardrobe footage and the filming of the movie.  Wardrobe test: look at the way she rises from the chair with ease.  In the movie, she shuffles stiffly.   In the tests, she looks GREAT, the hairdo is much more becoming than the wig she wore in the movie.   I don't know if the casting was Mae's idea but she didn't do herself any favors by hiring 30-ish Timothy Dalton as her new husband....and all those ex's with Mae being a full 30 years older than the oldest of them.  She probably should have stuck with George Raft and Caesar Romero.  I suppose the budget was too small to commission its own score but their choice of songs shoe-horned willy-nilly into the plot are curious to say the least, with the oddest being "Happy Birthday, 21".   (Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen) Songs not helped by those rinky-dink orchestrations.   By every account I've read, Mae was game, a good sport and pulled no diva crap.   I don't know what Mae thought of the finished product, but I hope they were able to keep those reviews away from her.

    Cesar Romero's name was brought up, but Mae vetoed him saying he was too old. He was 14 years younger than her. She allegedly thought Tony Curtis was too old as well. He was 32 years younger. 

  4. 35 minutes ago, Freddie2 said:

    Today I learned that Chloe Malle, editor of Vogue and daughter of Candice Bergen and Louis Malle, has been a Lucy fan since childhood. Here’s hoping she passes that love onto her new son!

    I remember Candice saying that after Avery was born on Murphy Brown, critics and viewers thought the show was concentrating too much on the new baby and the show didn’t know what to do to fix that. Chloe said, “They hardly ever showed Little Ricky on I Love Lucy,” so this gave them the idea to ignore baby Avery as much as possible. 

  5. Great new interview with Lucie with updates on the Lucy & Desi film and a new documentary. 

    Lucie Arnaz is a star, and she has been a star for a long time. It isn't talent that makes Lucie a star, it's her attitude, her professionalism, her respect for her craft, for her colleagues, and for the industry. Her talent is what makes her a constantly working actor, producer, director, and singer. Being talented and being a star are not mutually exclusive, but they also do not always go hand in hand - in the case of Lucie Arnaz, though, they are that magical combination that makes something special, like chocolate almonds in movie popcorn, beaches, and sunsets, or a pretty face and eyeglasses. Lucie Arnaz is more than her work, more than her art, she is a family woman, devoted to her husband, her children, her grandchildren and the legacy of her parents, making her a woman of substance, a Lady for the ages.

    Broadway World Cabaret and this writer, in particular, are honored that Lucie accepted an invitation to do a digital interview with us about her life in quarantine, her various work projects, and exactly what kind of Grandmother she is.

    This digital interview is reproduced in its entirety, without edits.


    Name: Lucie Arnaz
    First Cabaret Show (Lucie Arnaz: "A Tribute To Irving Berlin's 100th Birthday", 1988, Teatro Verde, Sicily 😞
    Most Recent Cabaret Show: "I Got The Job! Songs From My Musical Past".
    Website or Social Media Handles: www.luciearnaz.com; Facebook: Official Lucie Arnaz; Twitter: @realluciearnaz, Instagram: luciearnazofficial

    Lucie Arnaz! Welcome to Broadway World Cabaret, I am so happy you're chatting with us today! I understand you folks have a full house out in the desert these days - how is life in isolation on the West Coast? 


    Well, for about three weeks we had our daughter, her hubby, and our one-year-old grandson with us here - all quarantined together. They were both working from home and, due to the virus scares, without childcare. It was a remarkable gift to spend so much quality time watching this child grow and realize what wonderful parents they were. It was also fairly exhausting at our feeble ages! Soon, they will be renting another place here in Palm Springs right around the corner from us and that will be a piece of heaven.

    I hear you folks are doing a lot of volunteer work for the hospitals in your area. 

    Yes, isolation has been quite full. Since I had to postpone all of my upcoming concerts around the country indefinitely, I answered the call to help our local hospitals start to make more personal protective gear. We created the CV Mask Project and have delivered over 30,000 disposable gowns and 10,000 reusable masks to healthcare workers in the Coachella Valley. Makes me very proud. I was researching how to organize Contact Tracers weeks before anyone knew the term and am now networking with my composer and lyricist friends down here to create PSAs to get folks to understand the seriousness of keeping our social distancing going until we smash this bug.

    I am finishing organizing over 75 boxes of archives stored in various places in preparation for a feature film and a separate documentary in the works on my folks and compiling my own notes and memories for a memoir. I do all the shopping, cooking and cleaning now, since we now pay our housekeeper not to come(!) And after my husband, Larry Luckinbill, and I finish our daily chores, we settle down to disappear into a variety of escapist entertainments. So far, I have not been bored.

    Your current club act, "I Got The Job! Songs From My Musical Past" Is filled with wonderful anecdotes and reminiscences about your life and work - have you considered turning those stories into a memoir or maybe a musical? 

    I don't think it's a musical, but, yes, as I mentioned above, I am looking at what I might want to write about and how. There are so many subjects and possibilities. Looking through my life's memorabilia, I can see everything from photo books and theatre histories of my life to recipe books or virtual scrapbooks of the important legal documents from my parents' careers. It's a treasure trove.

    You take great care with your parents' legacy - what projects lie on the horizon for Lucy and Desi? 

    As mentioned above, there is a film in the works with Amazon Studios about my folks' relationship written by Aaron Sorkin and it is hopefully going to star Cate Blanchett. But, it has taken so long to get it rolling, we may have lost her interest by now. And, as I said, the remarkable Ron Howard and his Imagine Films are producing a documentary based on Mom and Dad's lives to be released about the same time as the feature. It's going to be a lot of work on my part with the research and all, so I am gearing up to make that task as easy as possible.

    Lucie put me in the picture of what kind of Grandmother you are. 

    Oh boy, the most appreciative and insatiable one you'll ever know. I adore my grandson, JD (Jeffrey Dodge). He is beyond bright, Gerber Baby beautiful and, for just a year old dude, funny as he can be. He has his mother's sense of humor. He really gets the jokes! I adore being with him, singing to him, feeding him, swimming with him, taking long walks around our neighborhood with him and telling him how good he is.

    My granddaughter, Eliza Grace, lives in "Way Too Far Away", CT and it was difficult enough to get up there to visit before this pandemic hit. Now, it's truly impossible. So, months have gone by without any real contact. FaceTime just doesn't cut it. I have some beautiful videos and photos though. I am praying there is a change of address a bit farther west in their future.

    The recent They're Playing Our Song reunion was a sold-out smash - clearly, the show has a big following. When the theaters are able to reopen, do you think a revival of the show might be in order? Is it time for a Neil Simon love story to be back on Broadway? 

    Well, that evening was a stand-alone with no agenda but to celebrate that show and what fun we all had doing it 40 years ago. We wanted to mark the milestone and raise a glass to the brilliance of Neil SimonMarvin Hamlisch, and Carole BayerSager's collaboration, to Pat Birch's inspired choreography, Robert Moore's direction, Manny Azenberg's parenting, Larry Blank's musical savvy, Ann Roth's costume design and everyone else who contributed to its remarkable success. Robert Kleinand I so loved climbing back into Sonia and Vernon's souls and remembering, even for one night, what great fun they were to inhabit.

    I never understood why there was not a first-class, Broadway revival. The thing still works. It's about trying to combine working with someone you love and the challenges that brings. It's about vulnerabilities and fears. And it's still really really funny. It was a blessing to get to do it one last time on Broadway with that hand-picked amazing orchestra.

    We are well into June, the month of Gay Pride. Your mother is a legend to all but also a gay icon; and your husband, Laurence Luckinbill, is a big part of gay history, being a cisgender, heterosexual man who had the courage to do The Boys in The Band onstage in1968 and on film in 1970. Yours is a family that has always been an ally to the gay community - I'd love to hear about your thoughts and feelings on that. 

    I am very proud to be married to Laurence Luckinbill, an actor who never cared what people thought about him, personally, as long as the material mattered. His dear college pal, Mart Crowley, brought that script to him after being told by so many agents that he would never be able to get it cast with any decent actors. Larry loved Mart and has always loved a challenge. He was brilliant and moving and so memorable in that role. Instead of ruining his career, it defined it. When they had the recent revival on Broadway, the director, Joe Mantello came to see Larry for a history of the piece and advice. They worked together as he was developing ideas of how to bring it back to life in today's gay world and, at the red carpet opening night on Broadway, Larry was treated like a real superstar. It made me beam to see that.

    My mother had gay friends all her life and we never spoke about their sexuality at our house in any negative way. It just was. I never cared about people's sexuality either, just their hearts. (I cared about it a little in the '70s, during my early dating years, when so may gays were not "out" yet and, having no real "gaydar", fell into several relationships with handsome, funny, talented, creative guys only to find out a tad late that they were not really in it for the same reasons I was. Live and learn.)

    You stay so fit - what was your first thought when you found out you would be doing all the aerial work to play Berthe in Pippin? 

    I was a Tony voter in NY for 15 years and so I saw almost every show that opened during that time and I knew what was required to play Grandma Berthe in the new acrobatic revival of Pippin. Actually I was not in such great physical shape at the time. I had knee problems, I had just moved out to CA and, what with getting settled and all and loving Palm Springs so much that I was kind of just enjoying myself, I had fallen off my work out schedule. I have a wonderful friend, Jon Giswold, who is one of the best trainers in the country and who I would, literally, commute 90 into the city from CT. to work out with three times a week. But, we hadn't been doing that for months with the move and that's when I got the call for the First National Company of Pippin. I asked Barry Weissler, the producer, if I could see the show again first and after I did, they asked me to play with them backstage, testing out how flexible I was and seeing if I had a fear of heights, etc. I was and I didn't and the part fit me like a glove. I only had the same three weeks of rehearsal everyone else had to train, but, Gypsy Snyder and Michael Lamphear made me an acrobat!! I did it!! And playing that part while performing that high wire, dance trapeze act was one of the coolest achievements of my career. I came off that tour with a whole new body....which I would love to find today!

    We've all heard about the musical Hazel and are hoping it will be coming into New York or going on tour - do you have any stories you'd like to share about Hazel? 

    The story to tell about working on HAZEL was my out of the box suggestion that Klea Blackhurst play the lead. The first thing potential producers always ask is, "Who do you have?" meaning which stars have you got signed and my great friends, the very talented composer and songwriter, Ron Abel and Chuck Steffan, (who bought the rights to the property), had been talking to a couple of big theatre "names" about playing the lead, but, so far, none had been interested enough or available. But, when they needed to make a demo of one of the big numbers in the show, I suggested they get Klea to sing on it. Even if she wasn't the "name" who could impress backers, her take on the material would surely knock it out of the park for them.

    Well, she so blew everyone away that they stopped talking to any other "names", told their producers they had found their HAZEL and that was that. Then, I guess because I had given them a few script suggestions along the way that they liked, they asked me to direct the first staged reading, which was very flattering and eventually led to my helming the NY 3-week workshop, as well. I brought in Chet Walker to stage that with me and we had some great fun. The show eventually went to Chicago, got another college production tryout, and is still sweeping its way to Broadway. Hopefully, there will be room for it in the near future. It's a charming show.

    Lucie, you were so funny on the recent Lucy-themed episode of Will and Grace. Would you like to return to sitcom work in the future? 

    Thanks for the compliment. That was fun. I am happy with my life right now. I like living in the desert, far from LA. I love spending time with my husband (of 40 years this June 22nd!), helping care for my grandchildren, and traveling the world performing with amazing musicians and interpreting great music. I am not rich, but, I lack for nothing. TV was fun and I still watch a lot of it. But, I am not going to lobby for parts anymore. When jobs of any kind come to me, I have to decide if they're really worth the effort. Some are. Pippin was. Will & Grace was short and sweet and fun. I am available and I love to work. People know how how to find me. Meanwhile, I am trying to just appreciate the abundance in my life.

    I am so grateful to you for chatting with me today and for sharing yourself with all of us over the years. You're the greatest!



  6. On 7/2/2019 at 8:05 AM, HarryCarter said:

    From the Wikipedia page of Gloria Wood (“Tiny”), who appeared in a string of fifth season Here’s Lucy episodes:

    The source for this was an article about Gloria from BING Magazine (Gloria worked with Bing Crosby a lot). I never heard Kirby Furlong was dubbed. If there was dubbing, I would think she just filled in certain notes or perhaps this was a Lisa Kirk-type rumor. 

    It looks like there was some dubbing involved for Kirby Furlong's singing. Up for sale is a contract for a David Joyce to dub Kirby's singing. I see there is a David Joyce still in the business who has had a long career doing background vocals. I assume it's the same one. 


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  7. In the finale of Mrs. America, Betty Friedan mentions Lucie Arnaz, Paul Newman, and Carl Reiner as runners in an ERA run in the Hamptons. Although the scene appeared to take place in November 1980, the actual run was in September 1979. Lucie would have been eight months pregnant in November 1980!

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