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  1. I was rereading these brilliant season 4 plot lines. We're a clever bunch! Here's a little different what-if take on season 4 Hedda Hopper's column Feb. 5, 1965: "It's official. Vivian Vance has turned in her resignation and will not be a regular when "The Lucy Show" begins its 4th season next fall. However, in a happy turn of events "Vivian Bagley" will be back for a limited run. Desilu has offered Vance a very lucrative deal to return for the first 13 episodes of the new season which will be a story arc chronicling her meeting and marrying new character "Vern Bunson" with the promise that many episode will center more on the lovey-dovey couple with little involvement from Lucy Carmichael. Doubling the enticement, if the couple clicks, is the possibility of her own "Viv & Vern" spinoff, which Vance would produce in partnership with Desilu. Story outlines for the 13 episodes have been completed which will include the courtship, wedding and the tearful parting of Lucy and Viv, sure to be a ratings winner for CBS (last episode in the arc "Viv Is Enciente"). Vance signed her contract, which puts her new salary on par with the series star and studio head Lucille Ball with the proviso that she waive casting approval. Desilu wanted her new co-star to be a surprise but Vance picked up little pieces of information from the gossip-mill. She heard the name "Fred" and the fact that the actor just completed 5 seasons of a hit sitcom on ABC. Naturally she thinks it will be tall, dashing and age-appropriate Fred MacMurray who recently quit "My Three Sons". *. When the cast sits down for the first table read of "Viv Meets Vern Bunson", she blows a gasket when the actor hired to play Vern walks in, a completely different My Three Sons "Fred" than she was expecting. Vance's contract is iron-clad so she'll make the best of it but has nixed the idea of a V&V spinoff unless her real-life husband, New York based bon vivant John Dodds can replace Frawley as Vern. Vance's weekly 3000 mile commute has afforded the couple little time together. Vance adds: "You can't have children long distance". Dodds: "U-u-u-u-u (spider voice)" *This part is based on fact. MacMurray's My Three Sons ABC contract WAS for 5 years (1960-65) and he wanted to walk but was talked into returning by CBS who offered him a sweetheart deal: all of his scenes for the entire season would be filmed in 3 months. Then the cast would do their scenes after MacMurray's departure which accounts for the show's clunky feel, post 1965.
  2. What the opinion of "Comedy Hour/Mr. and Mrs."? It was an interesting idea but if it was filmed before an audience, the laughter was sweetened, overly-so as they tended to do.--which gives the show a hollow feel to me. Hope's reliance on cue cards stifles the believability of his performance. Lucy looks so great that I can forgive the script not being all that funny. Lucy as Desilu president gave us a glimpse of what she may have been like behind the desk. The "traveling the world looking for Hope" montage may have gone one location too many. I find it so interesting that they (Desilu?/Lucy herself?) hired Jess Oppenheimer to produce this. Was the whole thing his idea? Not sure what his duties were but his deft hand is missing. I think of The Lucy Show as a lifetime away from I Love Lucy, but it had only been 8 years since Jess left the show. Could she have been testing the waters for the next season's head writer and/or producer? If so, I wish it had gone better so we could have avoided the influence of Milt (and Hilda). Another interesting fun fact. In an unusual move, the Lucy Show ran two weeks of reruns right before starting their official rerun cycle (selecting the relatively recent "Florence Nightengale" and "College Reunion"). One of those may have been opposite the Oscars. Then the next week LB Comedy Hour ran in Ed Sullivan's Sunday night slot (8pm) and 24 hours later, we got our first new Lucy Show in April, on the 19th, "Serves a Summons", followed by just one more new one "Baking Contest" before the "first in a series of reruns" started with "Locked in Vault" (which I would have picked as season premiere). You'd think they would have schedule the Comedy Hour during one of the weeks of a LS rerun.
  3. What is this from? Re: Xray pic and publicity letter. I'm speechless.
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    Mae West

    After snagging the Burtons, Lucy and Gary were after other big TV-shunning stars to do the show. I heard Mae West was one of them. But what sort of plot could they possibly come up with that would involve Lucy Carter and Mae West?
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    Mae West

    I thought Kenwith had passed on, but then again that wouldn't stop HIM from coming up with more Lucy-bashing stories, even if he has to speak from the great beyond through a medium. I can't figure out if Mae was in on the "joke" in Sextette or not, that being how the many much younger men were falling over themselves to get a chance with the alluring 84 year old Marlo. But then again, why not? Many leading men were paired with women 30 years younger and no one batted an eye. Though you don't see it written much anymore, the fact that Lucy was 5 1/2 years older than Desi was for a long time considered comment-worthy. Ageism in popular culture is so prevalent especially when it comes to women (though not exclusive to them) that it's pretty much a given. I'm trying to think of one movie/TV plot that presents an old person as just a person, which they are, that does not make reference to their age. They're either made fun of for the age-related ailments, feisty and sexually suggestive for laughs like Mother Dexter, homespun or charming with a late-in-life romance--which usually ends with one of them dying-- but rarely (if ever) a lead in a story that makes no reference to their age. Now that I'm approaching an age where I would be played by Burt Mustin, this is starting to bother me! We don't know we're old.
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    Mae West

    PBS's American Master ran a 90 minute biography of Mae West that was quite good. And everything considered they were pretty kind to Mae's 1978 vehicle "Sextette". Look up "Mae West Sextette Wardrobe Tests" on youtube. The slate is dated 8/26/76. The footage is silent but Mae seems to have it much more together than she did in the movie. My theory is that Mae had a slight stroke (or something else) between the wardrobe footage and the filming of the movie. Wardrobe test: look at the way she rises from the chair with ease. In the movie, she shuffles stiffly. In the tests, she looks GREAT, the hairdo is much more becoming than the wig she wore in the movie. I don't know if the casting was Mae's idea but she didn't do herself any favors by hiring 30-ish Timothy Dalton as her new husband....and all those ex's with Mae being a full 30 years older than the oldest of them. She probably should have stuck with George Raft and Caesar Romero. I suppose the budget was too small to commission its own score but their choice of songs shoe-horned willy-nilly into the plot are curious to say the least, with the oddest being "Happy Birthday, 21". (Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen) Songs not helped by those rinky-dink orchestrations. By every account I've read, Mae was game, a good sport and pulled no diva crap. I don't know what Mae thought of the finished product, but I hope they were able to keep those reviews away from her.
  7. I happened to be up this morning at 6:30 and caught "First Stop". Though there were at least 2 multi-minute breaks (4 min. each?), I couldn't detect what was cut. It is such a perfect episode, one where all four get their moments to shine. What I love about it is the conversational nature of the dialogue. Witty and funny without being jokey or leading up to punchlines. Whoever cast Mr. Skinner deserves special kudos.
  8. I love this one but it's one of several I love that the majority seems to hate. but BOTTOM 10?
  9. Bill Frawley appeared as the celebrity guest on "I've Got a Secret" in May of 1965. His secret: "I introduced the song "Melancholy Baby". I have not seen this "Secret" show. Other than his wonderful cameo on The Lucy Show that fall, it was his only TV appearance after "My Three Sons". I believe "Secret" was done in New York City meaning Bill traveled cross-country. His last "Sons" episode aired on Jan. 7, 1965 "Woman's Work" : "Steve and the boys share the household chores when Bub goes to Ireland to visit his 104 year old aunt." (I wonder if she was a lint-freak too). I don't know if his trip was written in as permanent but he apparently stayed there. The next "Sons" episode on Jan. 14th introduced his brother Charlie played by William Demerest. I wonder if "Bub" was ever mentioned again. "Sons" was still on ABC at the time. It would move to CBS in color in the fall of 1965 and run for another 7 years (12 in all and 11 of them made the top 30). Frawley had become uninsurable and did not take his "Sons" ousting well. He died the following March (1966). He had a good run though. 14 years as a regular on 2 series (3 if you count the LDCHs), starting at an age when most actors have trouble getting work, 64, and enjoyed steady employment until age 77. His wikipedia page points out something interesting. Fred MacMurray did all of his scenes for the whole season's worth of episodes in 2 months. After he was done, the rest of the cast did their reaction shots and scenes without him.
  10. An underrated, often ignored Lucy Show gem from the first season "Lucy Drives a Dump Truck". The gaggle of women who constituted the Danfield Volunteers were used too sparingly, probably more expensive to hire so many. Lucy is more Lucy Ricardo-esque in this one. The end scene was unusual in that it was done "on location" (the Desilu backlot) without an audience. The traffic cop was perfectly portrayed by Dick Reeves who had done many I Love Lucys. This was his only Lucy Show. There are several little bits she does in this episode that remind me why there's only one 'Lucy'...and they're all silent expressions on her face: 1) when she's finished her phone call to salvage man Don Sharpe, is told he's retired and decides to hide from an angry Viv and Audrey among the stacks of newspapers. 2) at the "court martial" as Viv reads her list of infractions and comes to "and we now have 34 tons of damp newspapers in our yard" 3) Officer Reeves asks her if she can read and points to a sign. Lucy "yes it says "One-Way'". Watch her expression change ever so slightly as she realizes she has just gone the wrong way down a one-way street. I also love Officer Reeves sarcastic "Welcome to Brewster" and his even more sarcastic response when Lucy asks if he's going to give her a ticket. "No", he scoffs and Lucy is relieved until he adds "I'm going to give you TWO tickets."
  11. These are TOOOO hilarious. Hard to pick favorite, but Gary's 3/4 size masks made me do a Mrs. McGillicuddy laugh. I'd forgotten about the whole Patty Andrews tsetse fly story. Pretty wacko even by Here's Lucy standards.
  12. A couple of things from TV Guide Jan. 19, 1974. The Here's Lucy that week was "NG as RN", which in a poll taken years ago won as the #1 Here's Lucy episode favorite. I loved this breezy, witty, well-done, but rather plotless half-hour. It should have been an average-good Here's Lucy. ABC and NBC had movies starting at 9. ABC "Scullduggery", dredged up from the vault because it starred Burt Reynolds, made BEFORE he was a big star. "an anthropological expedition discovers the missing link". Shades of Joan's "Trog". On NBC, there was the equally unknown "Rabbit, Run" a film that had "limited theatrical release" with James Caan, also before he was a star via "Godfather". Given a choice of these 3 network offerings, certainly Here's Lucy took the time slot that night. This TV Guide was the Portland (my home town) edition. Other than HL there was NO other Lucy on the schedule. Here's the thing I found the most amusing. Lazy Dean Martin had pretty much given up the variety format to concentrate on those EXCRUCIATING bad "celebrity roasts". This week's roast-ee was Truman Capote! But look at the odd-ball pot pourri roster of roasters: Ted Knight, Donald O'Connor, Audrey Meadows, Rich Little, Rocky Graciano, Joseph Wambaugh (author), Foster Brooks and that queen of one-liners Jean Simmons........JEAN SIMMONS???? This was 5 years after Stonewall but it still was not OK to acknowledge being gay on TV so I can't imagine what the always-pre-scripted jokes were.
  13. Very well put and you are so right. Were it not for this episode I don't know if I would know what a Cobb salad is. If I ever see "Veal Cutlet Marco Polo" on any menu, I will order it. Isn't that what Fred ordered? Lucy had the spaghetti of course. I don't remember what Ethel ordered.
  14. Who's "Johnny Lucille"? Too bad there wasn't a video recording of Sugar Babies made for TV. The only way to attempt to capture it properly would have been with a live theater audience. Sugar Babies ran long enough on Broadway that surely there were replacements for Ann & Mickey. Do you know who they got? Vanda Barra & Sid Gould, maybe?
  15. "Sugar Babies" on paper certainly didn't have mega-hit written all over it. I saw it on tour with Ann & Mickey and it was great. This was well into the 80s. Vaudeville was ALIVE!
  16. To keep the housebound Troupes entertained, I've been putting together Carole Cook videos and posting them to her Facebook fan page. That first season of The Lucy Show was at its absolute best when the Danfield volunteers would get together. There was no other show on the air doing this type of comedy. I was thinking: was there any other series like this period of The Lucy Show? Where the focus was on the antics of women in their 40s? (Yes, I know Lucy and Viv were both in their 50s but the characters were 40-ish.) And without their age being the focus of the comedy. I'm not counting Golden Girls because they're a generation older. Nor do I count Laverne in Shirley who were portrayed as in their 30s, I think. Am I forgetting one? (No doubt with the way shows come and go these days, SOMEBODY has tried the concept in recent years.)
  17. 4 of the absolute best. Which was I Love Lucy's most stellar month? I'm narrowing it down to two: March or May of 1955? March: LA at Last, Don Juan and Starlets, Lucy Gets in Pictures, Fashion Show May: Dancing Star, Harpo Marx, Ricky's Agent, The Tour The May 30th airing of "The Tour" (Episode #127) was the last new episode of the 30 for the season and the last by just the three writers. Many series were still doing 39.
  18. It's nice that Mary Jane went out with an "inner glow" in the only episode with her name in the title and probably the most screen time focused on her. Bob and Madelyn were obviously writing Lucy and MJ as Lucy and Viv. Is "Franchise Fiasco" the only episode where Mary Jane is annoyed at Lucy? -- in the same way Viv would have been? Had she not thoughtlessly gone out for coffee without Lucy, she MIGHT have appeared in "Wandering Mother". MJ made an impression anyway. I thought she was in more episodes. Had no idea she was in so few. Only NINE in the first 3 seasons as opposed to 23 in the last 3. (if my tally is correct).
  19. Thanks for this. I didn't realize that Lucie Arnaz only appeared in HALF of the 6th season episodes. I appreciate these are listed in the order of filming (which I assume they are) and not in the order they aired. Some interesting, if puzzling scheduling choices.
  20. Jun 27, 1970 TV Guide New York edition Here are the sparsely worded plot descriptions for CBS's 5 Lucy Shows run Monday through Friday at 10am. They don't give you a very clear idea of what the episode is about. M: "Lucy puts one over on Mooney". T: "Lucy is a financial whiz". W: "Guest Pat Harrington, Jr". Th: "Guest Jim Piersal", F: "A date for Lucy". As they had done for the previous year, CBS substituted "The Lucy Show" reruns for Here's Lucy for the summer starting that week. This one merited one of those "TV Guide Close-Up"'s with a picture of Lucy and Jack "Lucy Gets Jack Benny's Account". The blurb states "For the summer, Lucy is rummaging through shows from earlier years." I never got the appeal of this one. Milt took over the helm in 1964. In his 8 season run through 1972, wasn't there a gorilla in at least one episode per season? I don't know if the Lucy Shows they ran in the evening each summer were taken out of the morning rotation. Except for one Viv episode from season 3, they were all California Lucy Shows, mostly with guest stars. Seems like they ran the same ones every summer. I've never understood why TLS subbed for HL in the summer, which I think it did for 3 years. And why not run some of the greats from the 2nd season with the added hook of them being in color in prime time for the first time? NYC's channel 5 ran I love Lucy at 7pm 7 nights a week.. That Saturday was "Lucy in Paris". Competition was a Here's Lucy episode run by the Hartford CT CBS affiliate "Lucy runs the Rapids" (which had probably aired the previous Monday in NYC).
  21. The anniversary of Lucy's passing made me think of Bart Andrews. You youngsters probably don't understand. In the pre-internet, pre-EVERYTHING days, "Tweet" was something "Rockin' Robin"'s did; "DVD" was short for Dick Van Dyke; "Instagram" was an expedited service Western Union offered; "hashtag" was something special your pot dealer was offering (I can only assume); "VCR" probably stood for "Viet Cong Resistance". We all thought we were all alone in our Lucy "obsession". We had no way of getting in touch with each other. Then there was the late great Bart Andrews who wrote a book about the series: "Lucy and Ricky and Fred and Ethel", the first time we had an episode list in order of presentation. Probably the first time a book had been written about a TV series. Bart was as thorough as he could be at the time. Strangely, NOBODY he interviewed remembered the Christmas show, so all Bart could write was "apparently it wasn't very good". Thanks to him, for the first time, we knew we were not alone. Later he suffered health problems and died way too young. We all owe him a deep debt of gratitude. I know I do.
  22. This name sounds familiar. Do we know who he is? A couple of quotes from the amazon page: Lucille Ball welcoming Billy into her home to watch the debut of her final TV series after critics have panned the legendary star into tears:Lucy: Hello. I used to be in television! But it wasn't previewed before the premiere so it couldn't have been panned yet. Or could it? He was invited to her house?? The Desilu Projects book: I've just skimmed. A lot of readable information. He's not always clear if a pilot was shot but he's obviously seen scripts. He refers to the Lucie Arnaz "Apron Strings" Here's Lucy episode pilot with the alternate title "Kim". Never heard that before. Look at the author's picture on the amazon listing. As Alvin Littlefield said to Phoebe: "Well, at least SMILE!"
  23. An American Gigolo is NO MATCH for a "red hot mama"!! It's the battle of the TRICKS! Seems the bumbling secretary at the Unique Employment Agency received two escort requests and goofed, sending the two clients and the requested escorts to each other respectively. And imagine the disappointment on the other end: when RG Brown ends up with Mary Treen!
  24. 2 un-produced My Mother the Car episodes, prohibited by the network censor: "After Mother's headlights get a gander at the taut Roadster owned by Gene Hibbs, she badgers son Dave to pay for liposuction on her rumble seat. While in the shop for an estimate, she spies Hibbs' Roadster up on blocks and discovers it's all a cosmetic facade, done with bungie cables temporarily lifting the old jalopy's tired suspension. Guest cast: Hibbs: RG Brown. Mechanic: Jay Novello. Voice of Hibbs' Roadster: Selma Diamond ." "When Mom's tail pipe starts leaking oil, the scent revs up the engine of the hot rod next door. Months later, the jig is up when a litter of kiddie cars pops out of Mom's trunk and she has to admit to her son Dave that she and the hot rod did indeed lock bumpers. It's an embarrassing uphill battle when Mother forces Dave to take the neighbor to court demanding car-support payments. Hot rod owner: Roger C. Carmel. Judge: Parley Baer. Bailiff: Joseph Mell. Voice of Hot Rod: Brian Cutler. " Yes, "My Mother the Car" WAS a series and THIRTY episodes were produced. Can you imagine the meeting where the creators pitched this to the network? Then it was PICKED UP?? I mean, how many plots could there be?
  25. Sue Ann doing WJM voice-over promos: "Stay tuned for another hilarious episode of 'My Mother the Car'. The fun begins when Mom gets a lube job."
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