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No idea but if you run the dates and match up the start date to a Sunday in the early 60s you could maybe get it.

 

TX - wish I'd thought of that....Loving you, JK

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Possible that's the MISSING DATE none of us can get to: THE DATE HE MET HER ON THE SET OF TMG - perhaps???  That would be June, then, right?

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Lucy gave birth to Lucie on July 17th and perhaps Desi wanted to commemorate this each other. It looks like this picture was taken at Walter Winchell's birthday party in May 1953, so Desi Jr. was born by then too.

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She had this facial expression in some posed pictures which  I always found a bit odd.  The mouth: it's not quite a smile, but it's not NOT a smile.

 

And as for the guy writing about Lucy and Gilda:  For the LAST time, Lucy Ricardo was NOT A "DITZ", nor was the Lucy Carmichael of 1962 to 1964.   Naive to the ways of the world (especially finance) perhaps, but tell me a "ditz" could come up with "If Ricky comes back, tell him Fred took the Cadillac out for one last spin, If Fred comes back, tell him......etc."  (can't remember the whole line) at a moment's notice.

 

For some reason, Wildcat's "flop" status has been churning for the last 2 decades.  References before that acknowledged that it was a hit that she left out of exhaustion.   For the 21 weeks (or so) it played on Broadway, the box office was SRO,  capacity or near capacity. And this after 6 sold-out weeks in Philly.


Love these covers

 

 

 

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This is an interview with Janet Waldo (Peggy from ILL season 1) which I thought was sweet and fantastic for anyone who hasn't read it. Love the Desi story and Lucy's reaction, obviously it was an unwritten rule that he wasn't allowed to have women in his dressing even from those early days. It's amazing they seemed so in love and happy given the obvious concerns all along. I also like the mention of how Lucy had changed over the 10 years post ILL. Not many people knew and worked with her before and after so it's interesting when someone has. Wish there was more on Vivian :(

 

Of course, you’re most known for your large volume of voiceover roles but I have to ask you about your work on I Love Lucy.

Janet Waldo: Oh, I’m delighted to talk about that.

 

Now, you were in the 20th episode that aired in January 1952 and it was called “The Young Fans.” As I recall, you were playing a teenager who’s infatuated with Ricky Ricardo (Desi Arnaz) and Lucy (Lucille Ball) tries to pair you up with a teenage boy who in turn falls for her. What do you remember about working with Lucy and Desi?

Waldo: I have lots of memories because Lucy herself was quite a character and a fascinating personality. I think it was the first TV show that I’d ever done. I’m not sure but, anyway, Dick Crenna was also on and he played the boyfriend who was in love with her and I was in love with Ricky. And Lucy was quite fascinating. Would you like me to tell you a little about Lucy?

 

Absolutely, please.

Waldo: Well, she was amazing. I still watch her shows. They’re still on TV and they’re fantastic and I see that one that I did very frequently. But, she was very low-key until the lights came on and the cameras were turned on and then she lit up, like a star. She was just brilliant. And very funny and very nice to me and nice to work with.

 

I remember I was plenty scared because it was the first time I had done anything like that and I was studying my script right before we went on. Because we did it live in front of an audience so we had no pickups. And she said to me, “It’s too late now!” (laughs) She was very sweet to me but very real and it was great fun to do and Desi was charming and delightful and wonderful and I loved it. I love it every time I see it repeated. I think it’s very funny.

 

Do you remember anything about Vivian Vance and William Frawley?

Waldo: Well, they weren’t on that show. On the one episode that I did but, on The Lucy Show, I played Lucy’s sister and Vivian Vance was on that one.

 

Right, now that was about 11 years later in an episode called “Lucy’s Sister Pays a Visit.” What was that experience like?

Waldo: I was a great fan of Lucy and all her shows and I played her sister. And I had to cry and the director kept saying, “Do it again. Do it again.” And I’d do it again and I’d say to Lucy, “I don’t know what he wants from me.” And she’d say, “He wants you to bawl like me!” (laughs). So I was afraid to do that because I didn’t want to imitate her but I imitated Lucy’s bawl and that’s exactly what he wanted. She was absolutely right. And he printed.

 

I see. You were playing her sister so they share a similar way of crying…

Waldo: Yes, of course but you know, in this profession, you don’t want to steal from anybody else. But I did and that’s what he wanted. (laughs) And, I did it with her blessing.

 

Did you notice a difference in Lucy since you’d worked with her more than 10 years earlier?

Waldo: Between the two shows? Yes, she was much warmer with the first one. But, it was hard for Lucy to be warm, she was a very, um, cool person. She didn’t do… chatter, you know. She was very private and the only thing was that, on the second one, that she was away from Desi and she was a totally different person. She was so obviously very unhappy and angry and it was a whole different show. But the first one was a complete joy.

 

And Peter Marshall (Hollywood Squares) played your husband…

Waldo: And he was so unhappy when we did that show together that, before we went on in front of the live audience, he threw up (laughs). He was so… I don’t think he’d like for me to tell this story but he went off and got sick to his stomach. But he was angry and not happy at that point either. So it was all just a very different experience for me. But, I Love Lucy was such fun. I can’t begin to describe it. And Desi was wonderful and, actually, can I tell you something about him?

 

By all means!

Waldo: This is a story that people ask me about who are writing books and I’ve stopped telling about it because they want to make something of it. But Desi, you know I think he was very much in love with Lucy but I think that they had their problems. So anyway, he asked me to come to his dressing room. And I thought “Oh, he’s going to give me some pointers” (laughs). And I was pretty naive in those years (laughs). Because naturally I wanted to improve as much as I possibly could so I went to his dressing room with him and he closed the door. And I thought, “Oh, now he’s going to tell me how I can improve this.”

 

Two seconds later, the door opened and it was Lucy. And she was very angry and upset that I was in the room so I quickly excused myself and left. But, everybody that I talk to about that wants me to make something of it. But he was a perfect gentleman. He was very sweet to me. And I only bring it up because people realize that he had the wanderlust and I didn’t, I was just naive. But, he was just a perfectly sweet man.

 

That’s a great story.

Waldo: And you know, in the scene where they make themselves up to look older and he’s in a wheelchair and his legs are poised up on another chair, and he asks me to jiggle his legs. And he said, “Keep jiggling, Peggy, keep jiggling!” And now, when I go to sign autographs or when I see anybody who remembers that Lucy episode, they always say, “Keep jiggling, Peggy, keep jiggling!” (laughs).

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This is an interview with Janet Waldo (Peggy from ILL season 1) which I thought was sweet and fantastic for anyone who hasn't read it. Love the Desi story and Lucy's reaction, obviously it was an unwritten rule that he wasn't allowed to have women in his dressing even from those early days. It's amazing they seemed so in love and happy given the obvious concerns all along. I also like the mention of how Lucy had changed over the 10 years post ILL. Not many people knew and worked with her before and after so it's interesting when someone has. Wish there was more on Vivian :(

 

Of course, you’re most known for your large volume of voiceover roles but I have to ask you about your work on I Love Lucy.

Janet Waldo: Oh, I’m delighted to talk about that.

 

Now, you were in the 20th episode that aired in January 1952 and it was called “The Young Fans.” As I recall, you were playing a teenager who’s infatuated with Ricky Ricardo (Desi Arnaz) and Lucy (Lucille Ball) tries to pair you up with a teenage boy who in turn falls for her. What do you remember about working with Lucy and Desi?

Waldo: I have lots of memories because Lucy herself was quite a character and a fascinating personality. I think it was the first TV show that I’d ever done. I’m not sure but, anyway, Dick Crenna was also on and he played the boyfriend who was in love with her and I was in love with Ricky. And Lucy was quite fascinating. Would you like me to tell you a little about Lucy?

 

Absolutely, please.

Waldo: Well, she was amazing. I still watch her shows. They’re still on TV and they’re fantastic and I see that one that I did very frequently. But, she was very low-key until the lights came on and the cameras were turned on and then she lit up, like a star. She was just brilliant. And very funny and very nice to me and nice to work with.

 

I remember I was plenty scared because it was the first time I had done anything like that and I was studying my script right before we went on. Because we did it live in front of an audience so we had no pickups. And she said to me, “It’s too late now!” (laughs) She was very sweet to me but very real and it was great fun to do and Desi was charming and delightful and wonderful and I loved it. I love it every time I see it repeated. I think it’s very funny.

 

Do you remember anything about Vivian Vance and William Frawley?

Waldo: Well, they weren’t on that show. On the one episode that I did but, on The Lucy Show, I played Lucy’s sister and Vivian Vance was on that one.

 

Right, now that was about 11 years later in an episode called “Lucy’s Sister Pays a Visit.” What was that experience like?

Waldo: I was a great fan of Lucy and all her shows and I played her sister. And I had to cry and the director kept saying, “Do it again. Do it again.” And I’d do it again and I’d say to Lucy, “I don’t know what he wants from me.” And she’d say, “He wants you to bawl like me!” (laughs). So I was afraid to do that because I didn’t want to imitate her but I imitated Lucy’s bawl and that’s exactly what he wanted. She was absolutely right. And he printed.

 

I see. You were playing her sister so they share a similar way of crying…

Waldo: Yes, of course but you know, in this profession, you don’t want to steal from anybody else. But I did and that’s what he wanted. (laughs) And, I did it with her blessing.

 

Did you notice a difference in Lucy since you’d worked with her more than 10 years earlier?

Waldo: Between the two shows? Yes, she was much warmer with the first one. But, it was hard for Lucy to be warm, she was a very, um, cool person. She didn’t do… chatter, you know. She was very private and the only thing was that, on the second one, that she was away from Desi and she was a totally different person. She was so obviously very unhappy and angry and it was a whole different show. But the first one was a complete joy.

 

And Peter Marshall (Hollywood Squares) played your husband…

Waldo: And he was so unhappy when we did that show together that, before we went on in front of the live audience, he threw up (laughs). He was so… I don’t think he’d like for me to tell this story but he went off and got sick to his stomach. But he was angry and not happy at that point either. So it was all just a very different experience for me. But, I Love Lucy was such fun. I can’t begin to describe it. And Desi was wonderful and, actually, can I tell you something about him?

 

By all means!

Waldo: This is a story that people ask me about who are writing books and I’ve stopped telling about it because they want to make something of it. But Desi, you know I think he was very much in love with Lucy but I think that they had their problems. So anyway, he asked me to come to his dressing room. And I thought “Oh, he’s going to give me some pointers” (laughs). And I was pretty naive in those years (laughs). Because naturally I wanted to improve as much as I possibly could so I went to his dressing room with him and he closed the door. And I thought, “Oh, now he’s going to tell me how I can improve this.”

 

Two seconds later, the door opened and it was Lucy. And she was very angry and upset that I was in the room so I quickly excused myself and left. But, everybody that I talk to about that wants me to make something of it. But he was a perfect gentleman. He was very sweet to me. And I only bring it up because people realize that he had the wanderlust and I didn’t, I was just naive. But, he was just a perfectly sweet man.

 

That’s a great story.

Waldo: And you know, in the scene where they make themselves up to look older and he’s in a wheelchair and his legs are poised up on another chair, and he asks me to jiggle his legs. And he said, “Keep jiggling, Peggy, keep jiggling!” And now, when I go to sign autographs or when I see anybody who remembers that Lucy episode, they always say, “Keep jiggling, Peggy, keep jiggling!” (laughs).

Great story, thanks for posting that.  I dunno why i never made the connection that Janet did another show ten years later, i didn't remember the name of course, but everybody in the world remembers her for Jiggling those legs though, LOL!

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Did you notice a difference in Lucy since you’d worked with her more than 10 years earlier?

Waldo: Between the two shows? Yes, she was much warmer with the first one. But, it was hard for Lucy to be warm, she was a very, um, cool person. She didn’t do… chatter, you know. She was very private and the only thing was that, on the second one, that she was away from Desi and she was a totally different person. She was so obviously very unhappy and angry and it was a whole different show. But the first one was a complete joy.

 

 

 

By all means!

Waldo: This is a story that people ask me about who are writing books and I’ve stopped telling about it because they want to make something of it. But Desi, you know I think he was very much in love with Lucy but I think that they had their problems. So anyway, he asked me to come to his dressing room. And I thought “Oh, he’s going to give me some pointers” (laughs). And I was pretty naive in those years (laughs). Because naturally I wanted to improve as much as I possibly could so I went to his dressing room with him and he closed the door. And I thought, “Oh, now he’s going to tell me how I can improve this.”

 

Two seconds later, the door opened and it was Lucy. And she was very angry and upset that I was in the room so I quickly excused myself and left. But, everybody that I talk to about that wants me to make something of it. But he was a perfect gentleman. He was very sweet to me. And I only bring it up because people realize that he had the wanderlust and I didn’t, I was just naive. But, he was just a perfectly sweet man.

 

 

 

Both of these things are interesting.

 

I thought what Janet may have been noticing on TLS was Lucy had to be more of the task master running that show since she didn't have Desi so she was probably more on the 'all business" side.  Of course she could be more on the warm side during ILL because she didn't have to see to as many responsibilities then.

 

But then I forgot, her episode was still while Desi was around right before he left after the buyout.  Maybe that had something to do with Lucy's demeanor then.

 

 

The dressing room thing does sound odd in the context of how she describes it.  Janet was pregnant during this episode.  Was he really going to try anything with a pregnant woman?

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The dressing room thing does sound odd in the context of how she describes it.  Janet was pregnant during this episode.  Was he really going to try anything with a pregnant woman?

Never stopped him before, LOL!

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And Peter Marshall (Hollywood Squares) played your husband…

Waldo: And he was so unhappy when we did that show together that, before we went on in front of the live audience, he threw up

As did several members of the audience after watching his performance, the miserable ingrate.

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As did several members of the audience after watching his performance, the miserable ingrate.

LOL!  And i always wondered why Lucy never appeared on Hollywood Squares.  The miserable ingrate lousy acting pompous ass now says that he was all upset about the threat of Nuclear war when the Cuban missile crisis happened just as they were filming that week.

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August 22 2011 I believe. Janet was 87 the article mentions so obviously a great memory. What was wrong with Peter Marshall - bad actor? bad person? bad job int the episode? I know nothing about him. 

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