C L A U D E Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Makes you wonder. Actually, N O . I'm not sure but i think Joyce has told me some things already and i have never repeated any of them to anyone as she told it as facts, not gossip, so they weren't all that salacious at all, and i wasn't all that interested in what she may or may not have done eight decades ago. I think i've always been more interested in the why and how it affected her than the details, sordid though they may be. And of course, none of it changes the opinion i have of her and how much i resepect that she was jut a kid, learning and making mistakes like we all do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Actually, N O . I'm not sure but i think Joyce has told me some things already and i have never repeated any of them to anyone as she told it as facts, not gossip, so they weren't all that salacious at all, and i wasn't all that interested in what she may or may not have done eight decades ago. I think i've always been more interested in the why and how it affected her than the details, sordid though they may be. And of coure, none of it changes the opinion i have of her and how much i resepect that she was jut a kid, learning and making mistakes like we all do. I think we can surmise from Joyce's statements that Lucy probably did have something like an abortion. Or murdered somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desilufan2 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Actually, N O . I'm not sure but i think Joyce has told me some things already and i have never repeated any of them to anyone as she told it as facts, not gossip, so they weren't all that salacious at all, and i wasn't all that interested in what she may or may not have done eight decades ago. I think i've always been more interested in the why and how it affected her than the details, sordid though they may be. And of coure, none of it changes the opinion i have of her and how much i resepect that she was jut a kid, learning and making mistakes like we all do. Well thats why I would like to know. Id like to know how it may have affected her. In her book she really does seem lonely and longing for attention throughout her childhood. Its easy to see why she became an actress. Then she could be the "center of attention". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Or murdered somebody. Or picked a peck of pockets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ok, from books, we go to articles . . . if you've missed gorgeous and smart Tony Maietta, who used to interview people on Lucy dvds, well this site, The Advocate, features a five page article on him and what he's up to lately, give it a whirl as Carole used to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annaleigh Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 May I say here that Love, Lucy and Lucille Ball FAQ are THEE greatest Lucy books ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 May I say here that Love, Lucy and Lucille Ball FAQ are THEE greatest Lucy books ever. Thank you very much! That's very flattering. I'm glad it's in such good company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annaleigh Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Thank you very much! That's very flattering. I'm glad it's in such good company. No problem at all! Thanks for being a part of such an amazing book and bringing it to us fans! The FAQ are so accurate and interesting. Only boo boo I saw was referring to what would've been Lucy and Desi's wedding anniversary in 1986. You said 36 when it would have been 46. But that is one number out of more than 400 pages of accuracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 No problem at all! Thanks for being a part of such an amazing book and bringing it to us fans! The FAQ are so accurate and interesting. Only boo boo I saw was referring to what would've been Lucy and Desi's wedding anniversary in 1986. You said 36 when it would have been 46. But that is one number out of more than 400 pages of accuracy! Thank you for letting me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Thank you for letting me know! I first read that as THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME NOW, LOL! I never noticed that, but it doesn't matter, the book offers what we want most in a Lucy book, NEW information, thorough details, a wealth of never before stated facts about what happened when and why, just what the average Lucy fan craves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annaleigh Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Thank you for letting me know! No problem! But like Claude says it doesn't matter! It is one number out of all the amazing information there is included in this masterpiece! Whenever I start reading I can never seem to put it down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 No problem! But like Claude says it doesn't matter! It is one number out of all the amazing information there is included in this masterpiece! Whenever I start reading I can never seem to put it down! Thanks! I love hearing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Thanks! I love hearing that. I'm constantly glancing at MY copy as i type this right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leenorman Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think we can surmise from Joyce's statements that Lucy probably did have something like an abortion. Or murdered somebody. SURMISE will get you in trouble; I NEVER said, or insinuated, any SUCH THING... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 SURMISE will get you in trouble; I NEVER said, or insinuated, any SUCH THING... Ooookay. If you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Ooookay. If you say so. The Jamestown Mafia, made up of 100 old ladies with knitting needles at the ready seem to have silenced our Joycee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 New book on Henry Fonda, looked up the Lucy references, i`m not buying it, it`s called The Man Who Saw a Ghost. And the author`s reviews and comments on Big Street and Yours mine and Ours alone are so ignorant that i wouldn`t buy this book if you paid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 The Jamestown Mafia, made up up 100 old ladies with knitting needles at the ready seem to have silenced our Joycee. LMAO. I don't blame her, those blue hairs are pretty scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 LMAO. I don't blame her, those blue hairs are pretty scary. But Joycee knows where all the bodies are buried, they wouldn`t dare TOUCH HER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 This book is not new and I don't know if it's been discussed here. Writer Charles Higham's memoirs "In and Out of Hollywood" including as unflattering passage about Lucy during a "Mame" interview. It's hard to believe this guy would just make stuff up, but it's equally hard to believe that Lucy would refer to Desi Jr as a "faggot" and tell a writer who was there to interview her for an article that would be printed, that Desi and Dino Martin were sleeping together! I never read his interview but Lucy wrote him a note saying "How could someone so young be so cruel?" When did the press turn against Lucy like this? Just a few years earlier she had them eating out of her hand. I think it's a combination of the press corps not being so Hollywood friendly and writing 'edgier' than the old guard. They used to praise Lucy's frank demeanor but this group portrays her as crabby or "choleric" as one put it. I think the turning point was the Desi-Patty Duke affair. Most articles written about that portray Lucy badly because she wasn't welcoming to Patty. But my God!! Who could blame her? Not only was Patty in her wigged-out drug-hazed period, she was 24 and Lucy's son was only 17, which qualifies as statuatory rape now and I'm assuming it did then, no matter how mature and sophisticated Desi may have seemed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 WOW, that's some review, where can i get it? I think i tried several ways but none of them worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Another point -- if the arthritis story was a fib for whatever reason, it was a fib that did a lot of good. Look at the money and awareness she brought to the disease later in life, particularly her ongoing fundraising for the Orthopaedic Ward of the L.A. Children's Hospital. Granted this is a very worthy cause, but if the (alleged) pregnancy story had come up just think of all the money that may have been raised for Beauregard Burnside Home for Fallen Angels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 WOW, that's some review, where can i get it? I think i tried several ways but none of them worked out. I think it was Charles Higham who wrote a Lucy biography that only came out in paperback around the same time as the Mame interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think it was Charles Higham who wrote a Lucy biography that only came out in paperback around the same time as the Mame interview. Yeah, THAT one i have, and in paperback. It's the Yapp one i want now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Yeah, THAT one i have, and in paperback. It's the Yapp one i want now. Yapp didn't know his crap, but there were beautamous pictures in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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