Luvsbway Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Desi wrote this letter to himself on April 20, 1953. I had heard about this letter but never thought I’d ever see it, let alone hold it in my hands. I could see him writing something like this in the late 50s, but this was not too long after the birth of their son, in what I thought was a very happy time for them. “I’ve come to the terrible realization that my wife doesn’t love me. She loves her children, her mother, her family (;) as far as I’m concerned if I behave well, (I) am a nice guy to have around—but there’s no love. I’ve put with a million things that she has done to me in the past thirteen years because I love her, many of these things I didn’t like (,) they made me unhappy (,) she should not have done them, but I forgave her in my mind. I don’t think about them. Lucy is not that way, she can’t forgive me anything, and the reason why she can’t forgive me anything is because she really doesn’t love me. I have a sick feeling in my stomach. I’ve had this feeling before—during the Cuban revolution, during Lucy’s commie accusation and now—The other two times there was something you could fight, but you can’t fight this—the woman does not love me.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylu Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Could this possibly be from 1954? Lucy's brush with the Red Scare wasn't made public until September 1953. Either way it's heartbreaking that these feelings already existed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 I had thought of that, but didn't she testify in 1952? So it was still something they were going through, but it had not blown up in the press yet. At least that's what I'm thinking. Paperwork said 53' but I've seen paperwork be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylu Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Did some quick research and her first testimony was on April 3, 1952, then the second one was nearly a year and a half later on September 4, 1953. So I guess things could have still been brewing in April '53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Obviously what he felt at the time. By the end of his life he knew Lucy loved him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Telegram Desi sent Lucy when she made her debut in Dream Girl in Princeton, NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luvsbway Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 A moth or two in the life of Lucy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRickyII Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 9/6/2017 at 2:51 PM, Luvsbway said: Desi wrote this letter to himself on April 20, 1953. I had heard about this letter but never thought I’d ever see it, let alone hold it in my hands. I could see him writing something like this in the late 50s, but this was not too long after the birth of their son, in what I thought was a very happy time for them. “I’ve come to the terrible realization that my wife doesn’t love me. She loves her children, her mother, her family (;) as far as I’m concerned if I behave well, (I) am a nice guy to have around—but there’s no love. I’ve put with a million things that she has done to me in the past thirteen years because I love her, many of these things I didn’t like (,) they made me unhappy (,) she should not have done them, but I forgave her in my mind. I don’t think about them. Lucy is not that way, she can’t forgive me anything, and the reason why she can’t forgive me anything is because she really doesn’t love me. I have a sick feeling in my stomach. I’ve had this feeling before—during the Cuban revolution, during Lucy’s commie accusation and now—The other two times there was something you could fight, but you can’t fight this—the woman does not love me.” Wow! April 1953??? Just three months after Desi Jr. was born and this is what he was feeling? This is a shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I love seeing Lucy's schedule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, HarryCarter said: I love seeing Lucy's schedule! I do too. It's that daily stuff that I find so fscinating. This is just how her life ran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 This is a letter from Bing Crosby to Desi about his recent bad behavior at a club in Las Cruces Mexico. Seems like things hadn't gotten any better in 1966. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leenorman Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 WHAT WOULD BE MORE INTERESTING THAN THIS WOULD BE TO WONDER IF DESI EVER REPLIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 6:52 PM, Luvsbway said: This is a letter from Bing Crosby to Desi about his recent bad behavior at a club in Las Cruces Mexico. Seems like things hadn't gotten any better in 1966. Are there any more details about this particular incident? And I agree -- a reply would be quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 54 minutes ago, Brock said: Are there any more details about this particular incident? And I agree -- a reply would be quite interesting. Not that I've found. I did Google this club and found an article on how this area of Mexico was going to take off as a vacation destination but never really did. Seems like Bing and Desi were really the only celebs there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brock Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Do we know who George is and what he was offering? The obituaries line is insightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 The reference to "Pipe Night" in New York makes me think that George was extending an invitation to Lucy to be honored by the Players Club, a well known entertainment social club in New York. I'm not sure who George is. I'm very curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luvsbway Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Never saw that Channing one. That's very cool. The second one I love. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 A letter from Lucy is included among others in an upcoming Julien's auction of items from Valerie Harper's estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, HarryCarter said: A letter from Lucy is included among others in an upcoming Julien's auction of items from Valerie Harper's estate. That's lovely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 11/16/2017 at 4:08 PM, HarryCarter said: The reference to "Pipe Night" in New York makes me think that George was extending an invitation to Lucy to be honored by the Players Club, a well known entertainment social club in New York. I'm not sure who George is. I'm very curious. My guess would be legendary Broadway producer director George Abbott, with whom so many "greats" either got their start or he helped by casting them in one of his many hit plays. If memory serves, didn't he do "Too Many Girls"?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 12/9/2017 at 1:46 PM, Luvsbway said: Never saw that Channing one. That's very cool. The second one I love. Love the Carol Channing one too! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Oh how I adored dear Valerie and am so glad that Lucy was in her "orbit", if only briefly. What it must have meant to her to have her own show and then be recognized for it by LUCY!! Wow! So cool! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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