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Brock    3,299
5 hours ago, nertz2mertz said:

"Well this is a fine to tell me dahling!"

Nertz, what's CBS going to air? The publicity's out!

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LittleRickyII    305

I see lots of fans of "The Fashion Show" here, but I think that episode is just so-so.  Out of the Hollywood episodes, I would have much preferred "The Tour" or "The Star Upstairs."  But that's okay, "The Fashion Show" is still a decent episode and has its moments.  The one disappointment is that CBS continues to run that dreadful Christmas episode.  There is nothing "classic" about it.

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nertz2mertz    50
1 hour ago, LittleRickyII said:

I see lots of fans of "The Fashion Show" here, but I think that episode is just so-so.  Out of the Hollywood episodes, I would have much preferred "The Tour" or "The Star Upstairs."  But that's okay, "The Fashion Show" is still a decent episode and has its moments.  The one disappointment is that CBS continues to run that dreadful Christmas episode.  There is nothing "classic" about it.

:lucyhehe: "But yes I adore it" The star upstairs I mean. And yes the Xmas show is so "blasé" :lucyhmm:

 

 

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Mot Morenzi    1,405
10 hours ago, LittleRickyII said:

I see lots of fans of "The Fashion Show" here, but I think that episode is just so-so.  Out of the Hollywood episodes, I would have much preferred "The Tour" or "The Star Upstairs."  But that's okay, "The Fashion Show" is still a decent episode and has its moments.  The one disappointment is that CBS continues to run that dreadful Christmas episode.  There is nothing "classic" about it.

It's always nice to see the differing views we all have and get to discuss them. For me, it's the dress shopping scene at Don Loper's that truly make The Fashion Show memorable, more so than the episode as whole. It's easily one of my all time favorite individual scenes from the whole series, and easily one of the most quotable ("Thaaaankyouveddymuch" used to be said at least once a week in my house by someone).

For one,  it arguably contains some of the best Ethel moments - Vivian matches Lucy laugh for laugh. Also, Lucy's haughtiness and trying to act like she's such a much was very well handled. The supporting cast (Amzie Strickland, Shelia McRae and Don, of course) were also top-notch. Neil wrote in a post years ago that Loper contributed a lot of unintentional humor to this episode, and I have to agree. I loved MacRae's quote about Loper being perhaps the first gay man to just be himself on television and not care what anyone thought. 

I'll concur about The Christmas Show, I've never been crazy about it either. I think nertztomertz suggested a few years ago that the original tag scene could be colorized, and aired in between two other episodes. That might freshen things up a bit for future airings. 

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nertz2mertz    50
15 hours ago, Mot Morenzi said:

It's always nice to see the differing views we all have and get to discuss them. For me, it's the dress shopping scene at Don Loper's that truly make The Fashion Show memorable, more so than the episode as whole. It's easily one of my all time favorite individual scenes from the whole series, and easily one of the most quotable ("Thaaaankyouveddymuch" used to be said at least once a week in my house by someone).

For one,  it arguably contains some of the best Ethel moments - Vivian matches Lucy laugh for laugh. Also, Lucy's haughtiness and trying to act like she's such a much was very well handled. The supporting cast (Amzie Strickland, Shelia McRae and Don, of course) were also top-notch. Neil wrote in a post years ago that Loper contributed a lot of unintentional humor to this episode, and I have to agree. I loved MacRae's quote about Loper being perhaps the first gay man to just be himself on television and not care what anyone thought. 

I'll concur about The Christmas Show, I've never been crazy about it either. I think nertztomertz suggested a few years ago that the original tag scene could be colorized, and aired in between two other episodes. That might freshen things up a bit for future airings. 

I did? :lucyhorror:  Which tag scene?

 I will say that I'm not really crazy about the opening credits for the special. I prefer the original opening. The ending is ok because you need to credit everyone who participated in the episodes. Since it's being aired on network tv, I can understand the special openings. I was never too crazy about the pink heart. Looks colorized. I think the blue satin from Forever Darling looks more realistic and easier on the eye. Well, my eye.:peachonthebeach:

But that's me. :viv2:

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Mot Morenzi    1,405
54 minutes ago, nertz2mertz said:

I did? :lucyhorror:  Which tag scene?

 I will say that I'm not really crazy about the opening credits for the special. I prefer the original opening. The ending is ok because you need to credit everyone who participated in the episodes. Since it's being aired on network tv, I can understand the special openings. I was never too crazy about the pink heart. Looks colorized. I think the blue satin from Forever Darling looks more realistic and easier on the eye. Well, my eye.:peachonthebeach:

But that's me. :viv2:

The original Christmas tag scene that first aired after Drafted. I think it was you (it's been a while, could be wrong) who suggested colorizing that and airing it alongside two other episodes, instead of repeating the full Christmas episode every year. Well, whoever had the idea, I think it's a good one. 

That's an interesting suggestion about having the opening be blue instead of pink. I doubt that'd ever happen, what with pink being so associated with love and hearts, but you're probably right about it being softer and easier on the eye. 

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nertz2mertz    50
9 hours ago, Mot Morenzi said:

The original Christmas tag scene that first aired after Drafted. I think it was you (it's been a while, could be wrong) who suggested colorizing that and airing it alongside two other episodes, instead of repeating the full Christmas episode every year. Well, whoever had the idea, I think it's a good one. 

That's an interesting suggestion about having the opening be blue instead of pink. I doubt that'd ever happen, what with pink being so associated with love and hearts, but you're probably right about it being softer and easier on the eye. 

Oh ok now I remember. :lucyeww: 

I think the one who suggested that was former member Jonathan Yuhas two or three years ago. They probably won't show that one because the resolution is not that great.

Yeah I doubt they'll color it blue too. They have to go with what works best for broadcast tv. The decisions sometimes suck but oh well. "It looks like another boring evening at 21!" :lucythrill:

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Neil    1,278
On 11/12/2017 at 0:14 AM, Mot Morenzi said:

It's always nice to see the differing views we all have and get to discuss them. For me, it's the dress shopping scene at Don Loper's that truly make The Fashion Show memorable, more so than the episode as whole. It's easily one of my all time favorite individual scenes from the whole series, and easily one of the most quotable ("Thaaaankyouveddymuch" used to be said at least once a week in my house by someone).

For one,  it arguably contains some of the best Ethel moments - Vivian matches Lucy laugh for laugh. Also, Lucy's haughtiness and trying to act like she's such a much was very well handled. The supporting cast (Amzie Strickland, Shelia McRae and Don, of course) were also top-notch. Neil wrote in a post years ago that Loper contributed a lot of unintentional humor to this episode, and I have to agree. I loved MacRae's quote about Loper being perhaps the first gay man to just be himself on television and not care what anyone thought. 

I'll concur about The Christmas Show, I've never been crazy about it either. I think nertztomertz suggested a few years ago that the original tag scene could be colorized, and aired in between two other episodes. That might freshen things up a bit for future airings. 

Well said and I agree.  I don't supposed they'd consider running "Fashion Show" first and THEN the Christmas episode?  Funny that when Bart Andrews wrote his wonderful book, no one he interviewed could remember anything about the Christmas episode.  He wrote something like "it must not have been very good".  ( I hope the late, great Bart knew what he meant to my generation). 

I know they have to cut things here and there but if they cut Don Loper's look-to-the-heavens introduction of Mrs. Richard Carlson, I'll die. I'll REALLY DIE.  I suppose the fashion show segment slows the show down, but not for me.  I love those 50s fashions and Don's enthusiastic narration.    As if Don couldn't top himself, I love the way he stumbles over the words telling Amzie to do the alterations and emphasizes "by NOOON". 

Was the Christmas show indeed the first series episode to incorporate multiple flashbacks of previous episodes?

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Mot Morenzi    1,405
39 minutes ago, Neil said:

Well said and I agree.  I don't supposed they'd consider running "Fashion Show" first and THEN the Christmas episode?  Funny that when Bart Andrews wrote his wonderful book, no one he interviewed could remember anything about the Christmas episode.  He wrote something like "it must not have been very good".  ( I hope the late, great Bart knew what he meant to my generation). 

I know they have to cut things here and there but if they cut Don Loper's look-to-the-heavens introduction of Mrs. Richard Carlson, I'll die. I'll REALLY DIE.  I suppose the fashion show segment slows the show down, but not for me.  I love those 50s fashions and Don's enthusiastic narration.    As if Don couldn't top himself, I love the way he stumbles over the words telling Amzie to do the alterations and emphasizes "by NOOON". 

Was the Christmas show indeed the first series episode to incorporate multiple flashbacks of previous episodes?

You're right, Don is a riot in this outing. That slightly bored bitchiness he conveys is so subtle yet so effectively funny. I have a feeling color will truly enhance the fashion show segment and give it more life - not that it's in any way lacking in black and white, but this is really an episode that has something to gain from this. 

Yes, the Christmas show was the first episode to use flashbacks, I think for any series anywhere. I've never really been a fan of flashback episodes as a rule. I can understand their appeal back when broadcast was the only way to watch these shows (oh yay, my favorite clip, I haven't seen it in ages!), but they're kind of a hindrance in this on-demand area. Show me something new, not a clip from an episode on an earlier disc I could just pop in instead. The Golden Girls seemingly did at least one of these per season. 

Thankfully the practice has largely died out. The only sitcom in recent memory I can think of that did it on a recurring basis was Friends. Wasting one of their final season episodes with the technique was a mistake, IMO.

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Freddie2    795

Ken Levine recently talked about clip shows on his blog. The Office did one at one point, and I remember the wraparounds being funny. When I was little I had a hard time distinguishing The Golden Girls clip shows from their frequent “vignette” episodes- I’d wonder why I never saw the full Valentine’s Nudist Camp episode. 

 

And on a side note, I’ve only ever heard Don Loper speak in The Fashion Show, but I’d 100% be able to pick his voice out of a lineup.

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Neil    1,278
37 minutes ago, Freddie2 said:

And on a side note, I’ve only ever heard Don Loper speak in The Fashion Show, but I’d 100% be able to pick his voice out of a lineup.

You're enormously perceptive. 

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Neil    1,278
20 hours ago, Mot Morenzi said:

You're right, Don is a riot in this outing. That slightly bored bitchiness he conveys is so subtle yet so effectively funny. I have a feeling color will truly enhance the fashion show segment and give it more life - not that it's in any way lacking in black and white, but this is really an episode that has something to gain from this. 

Yes, the Christmas show was the first episode to use flashbacks, I think for any series anywhere. I've never really been a fan of flashback episodes as a rule. I can understand their appeal back when broadcast was the only way to watch these shows (oh yay, my favorite clip, I haven't seen it in ages!), but they're kind of a hindrance in this on-demand area. Show me something new, not a clip from an episode on an earlier disc I could just pop in instead. The Golden Girls seemingly did at least one of these per season. 

Thankfully the practice has largely died out. The only sitcom in recent memory I can think of that did it on a recurring basis was Friends. Wasting one of their final season episodes with the technique was a mistake, IMO.

The January 1st 1968 "Lucy Show" clip show with Lucy and Viv holds a special place for me.  Although I had seen these original episodes, I was too young to really remember them (and this was before the bulk of them had ever been rerun) It reminded me why I fell in love with Lucy and Lucy Carmichael, sticking by her side through "Mooney the Monkey" and most of the 6th season, none of which I'm wild about.  I had hoped that that "idea gal" Hilda would have pillow-talked Milt into hiring writers who could write like THAT.   I'm assuming there was some remuneration for the "based on an idea by" credit.  Although I'm grateful for Hilda'a prodding, it's not much of an "idea". 

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Mot Morenzi    1,405
1 hour ago, Neil said:

The January 1st 1968 "Lucy Show" clip show with Lucy and Viv holds a special place for me.  Although I had seen these original episodes, I was too young to really remember them (and this was before the bulk of them had ever been rerun) It reminded me why I fell in love with Lucy and Lucy Carmichael, sticking by her side through "Mooney the Monkey" and most of the 6th season, none of which I'm wild about.  I had hoped that that "idea gal" Hilda would have pillow-talked Milt into hiring writers who could write like THAT.   I'm assuming there was some remuneration for the "based on an idea by" credit.  Although I'm grateful for Hilda'a prodding, it's not much of an "idea". 

That's easily my favorite clip show episode. It was important for The Lucy Show to do that in its final season, given how drastically the show's format had evolved - it was nice seeing the past recognized and acknowledged. 

Ah, dear old Hilda. Maybe Milt forgot their anniversary and promised to get her name on television as a peace offering? I'll give her credit for thinking of the idea though, as none of the other writers seemed to. She was clearly aware of how strong those early episodes were by comparison. "Why can't my putz of a husband write like THAT!?"

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RodMcK1    49
16 hours ago, Brock said:

Interesting that the hair has been darkened from previous colourized efforts.

I think it looks better to me.  They're getting so good at this colorization thing and in HD, I finally wish they would do the entire series.  I had been previously unimpressed.

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nertz2mertz    50
On 12/1/2017 at 4:28 PM, RodMcK1 said:

I think it looks better to me.  They're getting so good at this colorization thing and in HD, I finally wish they would do the entire series.  I had been previously unimpressed.

Agreed. Her hair looks better. Good to know they colored her bathrobe accurate. I like the color schemes of Don "Laupers say-lon"

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Neil    1,278
On 11/14/2017 at 2:33 PM, Freddie2 said:

Ken Levine recently talked about clip shows on his blog. The Office did one at one point, and I remember the wraparounds being funny. When I was little I had a hard time distinguishing The Golden Girls clip shows from their frequent “vignette” episodes- I’d wonder why I never saw the full Valentine’s Nudist Camp episode. 

 

And on a side note, I’ve only ever heard Don Loper speak in The Fashion Show, but I’d 100% be able to pick his voice out of a lineup.

Did Ken Levine mention "The Lucy Show" 1/1/68 clip show in his blog?  I couldn't find it.  There was a long list of people's responses to clips shows.  I didn't know "Leave it to Beaver" did one.  I'll bet it was left out of the rerun syndication package.

I'm biased because I could never stand the show but one of my least favorite clip shows was the hour-long retrospective Lucy hosted for "3's Company".   I like John Ritter but this show was too smarmy for my taste.  Someone overhears two people talking and jumps to the wrong conclusion, usually about sex.   I know Lucy adored John but I wouldn't think she'd like 3's Company. 

Funny thing about that Golden Girls episode.  I don't think the vignettes were from actual episodes (I could be wrong).  I haven't seen the whole series but i don't remember the girls having boyfriends concurrently and going away for the weekend, but the condom-buying scene with Pat McCormick (writer: Lucy in London, Here's Lucy "Bogie Affair"-?) is hilarious.   Pat's timing is impeccable "The blonde wants the (can't remember brand)(Pat waits for laugh to die down)........in BLACK".  The insensitive clerk blurting out the items for a price check is not new.  In 'Bananas", Woody is buying a batch of respectable magazines and slips in a porn mag, which required the same broadcast "price check".   And speaking of "Bananas", Woody borrowed the 'lawyer Lucy questioning witness Lucy' bit ("Lucy is Her Own Lawyer") and jumping back and forth.  I like Lucy's version better. 

I'm not familiar enough with Dick Van Dyke to know whether the episodes selected for this year are DVD at its best.  The first 2 included "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" which hasn't aged as well as I would have thought.   The other was noteworthy for the, probably controversial for the time, end scene.   I always preferred the office episodes of DVD as opposed to home life. 

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3 hours ago, Neil said:

I'm not familiar enough with Dick Van Dyke to know whether the episodes selected for this year are DVD at its best.  The first 2 included "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" which hasn't aged as well as I would have thought.   The other was noteworthy for the, probably controversial for the time, end scene.   I always preferred the office episodes of DVD as opposed to home life. 

"October Eve" is a great Dick Van Dyke Show episode, but "My Blonde Haired Brunette" is not one of the best, in my opinion. Mary's great in the last scene, but in the earlier scenes she's much more soft spoken than she would become. 

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LittleRickyII    305
13 hours ago, Neil said:

Did Ken Levine mention "The Lucy Show" 1/1/68 clip show in his blog?  I couldn't find it.  There was a long list of people's responses to clips shows.  I didn't know "Leave it to Beaver" did one.  I'll bet it was left out of the rerun syndication package.

I'm biased because I could never stand the show but one of my least favorite clip shows was the hour-long retrospective Lucy hosted for "3's Company".   I like John Ritter but this show was too smarmy for my taste.  Someone overhears two people talking and jumps to the wrong conclusion, usually about sex.   I know Lucy adored John but I wouldn't think she'd like 3's Company. 

Funny thing about that Golden Girls episode.  I don't think the vignettes were from actual episodes (I could be wrong).  I haven't seen the whole series but i don't remember the girls having boyfriends concurrently and going away for the weekend, but the condom-buying scene with Pat McCormick (writer: Lucy in London, Here's Lucy "Bogie Affair"-?) is hilarious.   Pat's timing is impeccable "The blonde wants the (can't remember brand)(Pat waits for laugh to die down)........in BLACK".  The insensitive clerk blurting out the items for a price check is not new.  In 'Bananas", Woody is buying a batch of respectable magazines and slips in a porn mag, which required the same broadcast "price check".   And speaking of "Bananas", Woody borrowed the 'lawyer Lucy questioning witness Lucy' bit ("Lucy is Her Own Lawyer") and jumping back and forth.  I like Lucy's version better. 

I'm not familiar enough with Dick Van Dyke to know whether the episodes selected for this year are DVD at its best.  The first 2 included "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" which hasn't aged as well as I would have thought.   The other was noteworthy for the, probably controversial for the time, end scene.   I always preferred the office episodes of DVD as opposed to home life. 

Yes, the "Leave It to Beaver" clip show is included in the syndication package.  It's the series finale.  LITB is an incredibly well-written series, except for that clip show thanks to an illogical premise which has the family is looking through a photo album and reminiscing.  Each photo is from a particular scene from the series.  This is a really goofy set-up because it would mean that when those scenes took place, someone in the family was standing by with a camera.  For example, one of the clips is from an episode where Beaver and Larry Mondello are at Larry Mondello's house and sneak into Larry's sister's bedroom.  The picture in the photo album is of Beaver and Larry in his sister's bedroom.  They were alone in the bedroom, so who was supposed to have taken that picture?  Makes no sense.

13 hours ago, Neil said:

I'm not familiar enough with Dick Van Dyke to know whether the episodes selected for this year are DVD at its best.  The first 2 included "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" which hasn't aged as well as I would have thought.   The other was noteworthy for the, probably controversial for the time, end scene.   I always preferred the office episodes of DVD as opposed to home life. 

Interesting.  I always preferred the HOME LIFE to the office scenes.  I've never enjoyed that Sally/Buddy/Mel banter in the office.  I always found it annoying and unfunny.  But Dick and Mary I thought had amazing on-screen chemistry together.  And Mary's comedic talent shone through brightly from almost the very beginning.

 

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