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You've got some wierd taste their Mark! Sleeping Beauty and Wayne Newton "pretty awful" :lucydisgust: Retun of the Iron Man "Good Fun" :lucyshock:

 

 

Well that's me. Those episodes did nothing for me, one or two smiles, but compared to the previous 3 seasons they were dire.

 

As I type this am watching the final disc.

 

Dean Martin - good episode, Deano is excellent, maybe the best guest this season

Bob Crane - fair, nice to see Sgt Schultz doing a cameo

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The Robot - so-so episode nice to see Jay (Dennis the menace) North who is obnoxious in this episode (pity his character here wasn't called Dennis)

The Sweater - quite good, and Clint Walker is a good boyfriend for Mrs Carmichael

Gun Moll - quite good

Super Lucy - hilarious, cartoonish yes, but I love the physical comedy in it which is in short supply this season

 

 

On the whole a few good laughs, but disappointing compared with s1-3. As always, the quality of the shows are pristine, extras are getting thin on the ground for this release. "The interviews and or commentaries are of the individual and do not reflect the opinions of CBS.....etc" - why this appears is a mystery as there's no commentaries or interviews

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The Robot - so-so episode nice to see Jay (Dennis the menace) North who is obnoxious in this episode (pity his character here wasn't called Dennis)

The Sweater - quite good, and Clint Walker is a good boyfriend for Mrs Carmichael

Gun Moll - quite good

Super Lucy - hilarious, cartoonish yes, but I love the physical comedy in it which is in short supply this season

 

 

On the whole a few good laughs, but disappointing compared with s1-3. As always, the quality of the shows are pristine, extras are getting thin on the ground for this release. "The interviews and or commentaries are of the individual and do not reflect the opinions of CBS.....etc" - why this appears is a mystery as there's no commentaries or interviews

 

At least I know that I'm not the toughest critic out there :lucythrill: . Calling Gun Moll "quite good" is getting a bit below the belt though isn't it? :HALKING:

 

p.s - CBS are obliged to put that in their DVD releases no matter what.........it's just a standard clause. Let's hope that the special features in Season 5 blow us away EG. "LUCY IN LONDON"!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season

Paramount // Unrated // April 26, 2011List Price: $42.99 [buy now and save at Amazon]

Review by Stuart Galbraith IV | posted May 9, 2011

 

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The Lucy Show (1962-68) went through multiple format changes through the years: widow Lucy Carmichael (Lucille Ball) had two children that gradually disappeared into a black hole a la the "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome"; her best friend Vivian Bagley (Vivian Vance) also gradually vanished; Lucy and, improbably, her banker nemesis Mr. Mooney (Gale Gordon) each moved to Southern California, reuniting so that Lucy could wage her slapstick on Hollywood's elite while getting Mr. Mooney into all kinds of embarrassing situations. When Ball sold Desilu Productions to Gulf + Western in 1967, to retain ownership of her ongoing sitcom she changed formats yet again, and The Lucy Show became Here's Lucy. But the differences were slight, and it was pretty much business as usual until it all ended in March 1974.The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season (1965-66) is generally regarded as about the point where Ball's slapstick fell into creative decline. The original writers, Bob Carroll, Jr., Madelyn Davis, Bob Schiller, and Bob Weiskopf - all veterans ofI Love Lucy - were replaced by others, briefly including Elroy Schwartz (producer Sherwood's brother), and Garry Marshall and his partner, Jerry Belson. Ball's ex-husband Desi Arnaz was no longer a guiding hand, and the show's new producers and writers gradually dumbed-down Lucy's character almost to the point where, at times, she behaved mildly retarded. The reliance on big-name guest stars was crowd-pleasing but conversely creatively stifled the show as well, much as it did I Love Lucy once that series went Hollywood.

 

And yet I was pleasantly surprised by this season's shows, which had me laughing out loud at least once or twice per episode. It holds up better than I remembered it when The Lucy Show was widely syndicated throughout the 1970s and it was the only thing on TV during lunchtime.

 

The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season is yet another superbly-produced DVD set thanks in part to the cooperation of the Ball estate. The transfers are excellent and there's a veritable mountain of great extra features.

 

The fourth season of The Lucy Show is nearly unrecognizable from the first, though the format changes were gradual and Ball was forever front-and-center. Vivian Vance, growing weary of playing essentially the same character for more than a dozen years and wanting to move back home to Connecticut, was phased out during the previous season. Ball experimented for quite a while to find her replacement. Near the end of season three the great Ann Sothern, a longtime friend of Ball's and whose The Ann Sothern Show was produced by Desilu, made several appearances as "Countess Framboise" and had great chemistry with Ball, but Sothern rejected the idea of joining the series with the same second-fiddle billing as Vance. She wanted and deserved equal billing with Ball, who refused.

 

Next came another big '30s star, Joan Blondell, who appears in two Season Four shows. Blondell's character, a neighbor of Lucy's, was more like Vivian Bagley but also comes off as rather abrasive, and Blondell and Ball supposedly didn't get along. Lucy finally settled on longtime radio actress Mary Jane Croft (as Mary Jane Lewis), who had appeared with Ball at various times in the past, most notably as Betty Ramsey on the Connecticut-based I Love Lucy episodes. Croft was a good choice for several reasons: she was the right age, petite and still attractive, unfazed if a little bit flighty, and she wasn't trying to compete with Vance's beloved sidekick while in many ways contrasting her.And Croft was content with being billed only in the closing credits. The opening titles show only images of Ball, though Gale Gordon is announced as her co-star in those episodes in which he appears. (Ball adored Gordon but seems to have had a history of under-appreciating her female co-stars.)

 

As the season begins, unseen older daughter Chris is in college while her younger brother, Jerry (Jimmy Garrett), is shipped off to military school in the season opener. (Garrett appears in one more Season Four show then disappears for good.) During that episode there's a brief reference to Vance's character who, according to Lucy, has happily remarried. Also left behind is Lucy's house in Danville, New York. She's packed up and moved into a new apartment in Hollywood.

 

In an only-in-TV-Land coincidence, Lucy's Danville banker and nemesis, Mr. Mooney (Gale Gordon) has been transferred to the very same Beverly Hills bank where Lucy keeps her new account, and before long she's working as his secretary. It may be unbelievable, but worth it: Gordon was The Lucy Show's secret weapon, a guaranteed laugh-getter.

 

The season's shows are generally funny if one can forgive Lucy (Carmichael)'s extreme stupidity and this season's frequent teetering toward outright fantasy, in episodes like "Lucy, the Robot" and "Lucy, the Superwoman," which approach a Gilligan's Island level of silliness. Ball turned 55 near the end of the season and was showing her age - she defiantly keeps showing off her skinny legs, like Paul Newman always finding an excuse to take off his shirt in his later films - but her good timing and willingness to subject herself to the most outrageous broad slapstick stood her in good stead with her audience. The show stayed in Nielsen's Top Ten and ended the season at #3 - actually beating out the first three years.

 

Besides Ann Sothern and Joan Blondell, guest stars this season include Harvey Korman, Jimmy Piersall, Howard Morris, Mel Tormé, Keith Andes (in several episodes as Lucy's neighbor-boyfriend), Danny Thomas, Clint Walker (twice), Jack Cassidy, Ross Elliott, Milton Berle, Lloyd Corrigan, Wayne Newton, Jamie Farr, Larry J. Blake, Douglas Fowley, Willard Waterman, Art Linkletter, Doris Singleton, Mickey Rooney, Jane Kean, Jan Murray, John Howard, Kirk Douglas, Vince Edwards, Bert Freed, Edward G. Robinson, Reta Shaw, Johnny Grant, Tommy Farrell, Dean Martin, Bob Crane, John Banner (as Sgt. Schultz), and Jay North.

 

A frail William Frawley makes a brief cameo in "Lucy and the Countess Have a Horse Guest." He died four months after it aired. Make-up man and Lon Chaney historian Michael F. Blake (the son of Larry J.) is in there somewhere in "Lucy the Choirmaster." And Robert Stack, Bruce Gordon, Steve London, and Walter Winchell all reprise their roles from The Untouchables (a Desilu show) in the penultimate episode.

 

Video & Audio

 

As with all of the (official) Lucy-related DVD releases, The Lucy Show looks splendid in its original full-frame format, strong color and sharpness throughout, with 26 episodes spread over four single-sided, dual layered DVDs. Episode titles with brief descriptions and airdates are offered as part of the packaging. The English-only mono, which is not subtitled per se but is closed captioned, sounds great, too.

 

Extra Features.

 

Some wonderful stuff here. In addition to the usual text and still extras, including production notes, guest cast biographies, and "vintage" opening and closings, are several amazing pieces of film. The best is "The Magic of Broadcasting," excerpts from an Arthur Godfrey special partly documenting life on The Lucy Show set. Ball talks about the show in voice-over while the full-color footage (shot by Lee Mendelson's company, he of Peanuts fame) reveals the cast rehearsing on various sets, Lucy fretting in her dressing room, performing before a live audience, etc. It's really amazing stuff. (It also explains how action on two different sets is presented before a live audience: a lightweight partition hides the actors on the lighted set until their cue.) "Lucy Behind the Scenes" is essentially raw behind-the-scenes footage from "Lucy at Marineland" where, on location and somewhat out of her element, she struggles for laughs while in a tank with a pod of dolphins. She's obviously wet, unhappy, and a bit spooked by her marine mammal co-stars, but gamely soldiers on.

 

Ball makes a tit-for-tat appearance on a Danny Thomas special, "Wonderful World of Burlesque," in which Ball does a wire act a la Peter Pan on what looks like the Phantom Stage at Universal. She seems to have brought her owned canned laughter - it's the same audience-sweetening guffaws and "oh-oh!"s heard innumerable times on I Love Lucy.

 

Of less interest but still welcome is audio of Ball and Gordon doing a sketch on behalf of a Desilu sponsor, Beatrice Foods, and audio of Gordon cautioning Californians not to drink and drive, in a series of PSAs for AAA.

 

Parting Thoughts

 

The Lucy Show holds up much better than I had remembered it, and even this season, not one of Lucy's best, maintains a surprisingly high comedy batting average. That coupled with strong transfers and great extras make this a can't-miss. Highly Recommended. :D

 

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http://www.dvdtalk.c...-fourth-season/

 

 

 

 

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Thanks JoeySoCal for sharing this review by Stuart Gilbraith lV. :gale1::lucy2::maryjane2:

 

note: read the previous reply above this one, up there. :viv1:

 

Re: the disclaimer? Just standard practice. These conglomerates are so afraid of being sued that they make sure their rear ends are covered against any potential liablity from each way to Sunday.

 

Also, perhaps there were interviews done and/or planned for this set that didn't pan out for one reason or another. Only those "in the know" know, you know? ;)

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Its odd though that I don't recall the disclaimer on disc 4 which DOES contain interview material (the behind the scenes featurette)

 

 

I'm not sure that they "have" to put it on each and every disc, but honestly I've never paid attention-- I thought it was just at the beginning of the first disc and on the back of the box. Seems like that'd cover it anyways! :D

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The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season

Paramount // Unrated // April 26, 2011List Price: $42.99 [buy now and save at Amazon]

Review by Stuart Galbraith IV | posted May 9, 2011

 

B004MLEYUK.jpg

The Lucy Show (1962-68) went through multiple format changes through the years: widow Lucy Carmichael (Lucille Ball) had two children that gradually disappeared into a black hole a la the "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome"; her best friend Vivian Bagley (Vivian Vance) also gradually vanished; Lucy and, improbably, her banker nemesis Mr. Mooney (Gale Gordon) each moved to Southern California, reuniting so that Lucy could wage her slapstick on Hollywood's elite while getting Mr. Mooney into all kinds of embarrassing situations. When Ball sold Desilu Productions to Gulf + Western in 1967, to retain ownership of her ongoing sitcom she changed formats yet again, and The Lucy Show became Here's Lucy. But the differences were slight, and it was pretty much business as usual until it all ended in March 1974.The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season (1965-66) is generally regarded as about the point where Ball's slapstick fell into creative decline. The original writers, Bob Carroll, Jr., Madelyn Davis, Bob Schiller, and Bob Weiskopf - all veterans ofI Love Lucy - were replaced by others, briefly including Elroy Schwartz (producer Sherwood's brother), and Garry Marshall and his partner, Jerry Belson. Ball's ex-husband Desi Arnaz was no longer a guiding hand, and the show's new producers and writers gradually dumbed-down Lucy's character almost to the point where, at times, she behaved mildly retarded. The reliance on big-name guest stars was crowd-pleasing but conversely creatively stifled the show as well, much as it did I Love Lucy once that series went Hollywood.

 

And yet I was pleasantly surprised by this season's shows, which had me laughing out loud at least once or twice per episode. It holds up better than I remembered it when The Lucy Show was widely syndicated throughout the 1970s and it was the only thing on TV during lunchtime.

 

The Lucy Show - The Official Fourth Season is yet another superbly-produced DVD set thanks in part to the cooperation of the Ball estate. The transfers are excellent and there's a veritable mountain of great extra features.

 

The fourth season of The Lucy Show is nearly unrecognizable from the first, though the format changes were gradual and Ball was forever front-and-center. Vivian Vance, growing weary of playing essentially the same character for more than a dozen years and wanting to move back home to Connecticut, was phased out during the previous season. Ball experimented for quite a while to find her replacement. Near the end of season three the great Ann Sothern, a longtime friend of Ball's and whose The Ann Sothern Show was produced by Desilu, made several appearances as "Countess Framboise" and had great chemistry with Ball, but Sothern rejected the idea of joining the series with the same second-fiddle billing as Vance. She wanted and deserved equal billing with Ball, who refused.

 

Next came another big '30s star, Joan Blondell, who appears in two Season Four shows. Blondell's character, a neighbor of Lucy's, was more like Vivian Bagley but also comes off as rather abrasive, and Blondell and Ball supposedly didn't get along. Lucy finally settled on longtime radio actress Mary Jane Croft (as Mary Jane Lewis), who had appeared with Ball at various times in the past, most notably as Betty Ramsey on the Connecticut-based I Love Lucy episodes. Croft was a good choice for several reasons: she was the right age, petite and still attractive, unfazed if a little bit flighty, and she wasn't trying to compete with Vance's beloved sidekick while in many ways contrasting her.And Croft was content with being billed only in the closing credits. The opening titles show only images of Ball, though Gale Gordon is announced as her co-star in those episodes in which he appears. (Ball adored Gordon but seems to have had a history of under-appreciating her female co-stars.)

 

As the season begins, unseen older daughter Chris is in college while her younger brother, Jerry (Jimmy Garrett), is shipped off to military school in the season opener. (Garrett appears in one more Season Four show then disappears for good.) During that episode there's a brief reference to Vance's character who, according to Lucy, has happily remarried. Also left behind is Lucy's house in Danville, New York. She's packed up and moved into a new apartment in Hollywood.

 

In an only-in-TV-Land coincidence, Lucy's Danville banker and nemesis, Mr. Mooney (Gale Gordon) has been transferred to the very same Beverly Hills bank where Lucy keeps her new account, and before long she's working as his secretary. It may be unbelievable, but worth it: Gordon was The Lucy Show's secret weapon, a guaranteed laugh-getter.

 

The season's shows are generally funny if one can forgive Lucy (Carmichael)'s extreme stupidity and this season's frequent teetering toward outright fantasy, in episodes like "Lucy, the Robot" and "Lucy, the Superwoman," which approach a Gilligan's Island level of silliness. Ball turned 55 near the end of the season and was showing her age - she defiantly keeps showing off her skinny legs, like Paul Newman always finding an excuse to take off his shirt in his later films - but her good timing and willingness to subject herself to the most outrageous broad slapstick stood her in good stead with her audience. The show stayed in Nielsen's Top Ten and ended the season at #3 - actually beating out the first three years.

 

Besides Ann Sothern and Joan Blondell, guest stars this season include Harvey Korman, Jimmy Piersall, Howard Morris, Mel Tormé, Keith Andes (in several episodes as Lucy's neighbor-boyfriend), Danny Thomas, Clint Walker (twice), Jack Cassidy, Ross Elliott, Milton Berle, Lloyd Corrigan, Wayne Newton, Jamie Farr, Larry J. Blake, Douglas Fowley, Willard Waterman, Art Linkletter, Doris Singleton, Mickey Rooney, Jane Kean, Jan Murray, John Howard, Kirk Douglas, Vince Edwards, Bert Freed, Edward G. Robinson, Reta Shaw, Johnny Grant, Tommy Farrell, Dean Martin, Bob Crane, John Banner (as Sgt. Schultz), and Jay North.

 

A frail William Frawley makes a brief cameo in "Lucy and the Countess Have a Horse Guest." He died four months after it aired. Make-up man and Lon Chaney historian Michael F. Blake (the son of Larry J.) is in there somewhere in "Lucy the Choirmaster." And Robert Stack, Bruce Gordon, Steve London, and Walter Winchell all reprise their roles from The Untouchables (a Desilu show) in the penultimate episode.

 

Video & Audio

 

As with all of the (official) Lucy-related DVD releases, The Lucy Show looks splendid in its original full-frame format, strong color and sharpness throughout, with 26 episodes spread over four single-sided, dual layered DVDs. Episode titles with brief descriptions and airdates are offered as part of the packaging. The English-only mono, which is not subtitled per se but is closed captioned, sounds great, too.

 

Extra Features.

 

Some wonderful stuff here. In addition to the usual text and still extras, including production notes, guest cast biographies, and "vintage" opening and closings, are several amazing pieces of film. The best is "The Magic of Broadcasting," excerpts from an Arthur Godfrey special partly documenting life on The Lucy Show set. Ball talks about the show in voice-over while the full-color footage (shot by Lee Mendelson's company, he of Peanuts fame) reveals the cast rehearsing on various sets, Lucy fretting in her dressing room, performing before a live audience, etc. It's really amazing stuff. (It also explains how action on two different sets is presented before a live audience: a lightweight partition hides the actors on the lighted set until their cue.) "Lucy Behind the Scenes" is essentially raw behind-the-scenes footage from "Lucy at Marineland" where, on location and somewhat out of her element, she struggles for laughs while in a tank with a pod of dolphins. She's obviously wet, unhappy, and a bit spooked by her marine mammal co-stars, but gamely soldiers on.

 

Ball makes a tit-for-tat appearance on a Danny Thomas special, "Wonderful World of Burlesque," in which Ball does a wire act a la Peter Pan on what looks like the Phantom Stage at Universal. She seems to have brought her owned canned laughter - it's the same audience-sweetening guffaws and "oh-oh!"s heard innumerable times on I Love Lucy.

 

Of less interest but still welcome is audio of Ball and Gordon doing a sketch on behalf of a Desilu sponsor, Beatrice Foods, and audio of Gordon cautioning Californians not to drink and drive, in a series of PSAs for AAA.

 

Parting Thoughts

 

The Lucy Show holds up much better than I had remembered it, and even this season, not one of Lucy's best, maintains a surprisingly high comedy batting average. That coupled with strong transfers and great extras make this a can't-miss. Highly Recommended. :D

 

Review from:

http://www.dvdtalk.c...-fourth-season/

 

 

 

 

Thanks for posting this Joe, great read to keep me going till i finally get my copy maybe next week if i'm lucky.

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Season 4 trivia:

On Oct. 4th, The Lucy Show and EVERY show was pre-empted by network coverage of the Pope's visit.

On Dec. 20th "Music World (Wingding)" was rerun

When "The Lucy Show" went into reruns on March 28th, they started with episode "Wayne Newton" run just 3 months earlier.

14 episodes were rerun through the end of June before "Vacation Playouse" took over in July.

Here are the rest in order:

Art Linkletter, Danny Thomas, Clint Walker's Sweater, Dean Martin, Horse Guest, Department Store Job, Ironman1/Joan Blondell, Undercover Agent, Mickey Rooney, Hollywood Premiere, Robert Stack, Ironman/Bob Crane, and Clint Walker-part 1.

Funny that they reran the Clint Walker sequel before the original.

Left out of the rerun group: Marineland, Greek, Lucy and Joan, Milton Berle, Helps Countess/Real Estate, Return of Ironman, Choirmaster (all of these were in the first half of the season)and from the 2nd 13th only Rain Goddess, Soap Opera, Robot, and Superwoman were not rerun.

Coming soon!: I visited the library and made copies of our local newspaper's thumbnail reviews! TWO episodes carried the phrase: "the best of the season"

You may guess one, but I doubt you'll guess the OTHER!!

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Thanks! There must be more out there, I just haven't dug very deep.

I'm finding I'm watching this set very sporadically and taking my sweet time, I'm enjoying it so -- they look so damned GOOD!!! -- despite the varying quality of actual episodes, from the ridiculous to the sublime....and you can guess which episode(s) I'm referring to respectively. ;)

 

Hoping Sven gets you your set soon, Claude, you're missing out!!! :D

 

 

 

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Yup. I love the "our favorite redhead" line. Can't wait to hear what the "other" fave ep is - I'm presuming the one is Dean Martin?? ;)

 

You are correct! By the way, I love your Dean Martin episode photos: Lucy at her absolute loveliest.

 

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I'm sure this episode gave that ratings powerhouse "Oregon at Work" a real run for its money!

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Season 4 trivia:

On Oct. 4th, The Lucy Show and EVERY show was pre-empted by network coverage of the Pope's visit.

On Dec. 20th "Music World (Wingding)" was rerun

When "The Lucy Show" went into reruns on March 28th, they started with episode "Wayne Newton" run just 3 months earlier.

14 episodes were rerun through the end of June before "Vacation Playouse" took over in July.

Here are the rest in order:

Art Linkletter, Danny Thomas, Clint Walker's Sweater, Dean Martin, Horse Guest, Department Store Job, Ironman1/Joan Blondell, Undercover Agent, Mickey Rooney, Hollywood Premiere, Robert Stack, Ironman/Bob Crane, and Clint Walker-part 1.

Funny that they reran the Clint Walker sequel before the original.

Left out of the rerun group: Marineland, Greek, Lucy and Joan, Milton Berle, Helps Countess/Real Estate, Return of Ironman, Choirmaster (all of these were in the first half of the season)and from the 2nd 13th only Rain Goddess, Soap Opera, Robot, and Superwoman were not rerun.

Coming soon!: I visited the library and made copies of our local newspaper's thumbnail reviews! TWO episodes carried the phrase: "the best of the season"

You may guess one, but I doubt you'll guess the OTHER!!

NOW HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ALL THAT?

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Thanks! There must be more out there, I just haven't dug very deep.

I'm finding I'm watching this set very sporadically and taking my sweet time, I'm enjoying it so -- they look so damned GOOD!!! -- despite the varying quality of actual episodes, from the ridiculous to the sublime....and you can guess which episode(s) I'm referring to respectively. ;)

 

Hoping Sven gets you your set soon, Claude, you're missing out!!! :D

He's supposed to come over this week after promosing to do that for two months now but being stopped from his boss, so why should i buy another copy at 40 bucks tax included when one is on the way of both series' seasons four? I had found the only copy of HL S4 downtown three weeks ago but today finally had TLS S4 in MY hands for the very first time, they finally got it downtown, but i refused to buy it for the simple reason you mentionned, i have this to look forward to and we won't get another one for months so maybe it's a good thing i'm finally learning to be patient and so i can savor each and every episode for weeks and weeks also.

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NOW HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ALL THAT?

 

When I was looking up the Lucy Show episode reviews in the newspaper archives, I checked the rerun schedule.

I also checked to see what order they ran "The Lucy Desi Comedy Hour". There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the order. Other than when the specials first ran as a series in the summer of 1962, it replaced "The Danny Thomas Show", so Danny being first makes sense. The number following the episode refers to its episode number in the original run.

Danny-7

Havana-1

Horse Race-4

Mexico-6

Berle-11

Alaska-8

Tallulah-2

Uranium-3

Kovacs-13

Sun Valley-5

Summer Vacation-10

Japan-12

Paul Douglas-9

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And yes, here's the other "season favorite" and the picture.

 

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Do we know who reviewed this particular episode? I'd love to know if they volunteered for scientific research at any point before writing that review.

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