Brock Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yeah, show it to Carole Cook, she's N E V E R seen Lucy playing with either of her kids. :rolleyes: Get over that. LOL This was nearly a decade before Carole came on the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 :rolleyes: Get over that. LOL This was nearly a decade before Carole came on the scene. I will N E V E R get over that, with tears in her eyes, I NEVER SAW YOUR MOTHER PLAYING WITH YOU KIDS, then wiping away tears playing into Lucie's hands in that otherwise great documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I will N E V E R get over that, with tears in her eyes, I NEVER SAW YOUR MOTHER PLAYING WITH YOU KIDS, then wiping away tears playing into Lucie's hands in that otherwise great documentary. You will never get over saying what she saw? So what, the woman never saw Lucy playing with the kids. It's her recollection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 You will never get over saying what she saw? So what, the woman never saw Lucy playing with the kids. It's her recollection... Yup, she was with them 24 hours a day for their entire childhood so she couldn't have missed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annaleigh Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yeah, show it to Carole Cook, she's N E V E R seen Lucy playing with either of her kids. Seriously, every post I've seen you make recently has made me burst out into laughter. Hahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 [quote name=DroopyDrawers ' timestamp='1316593056' post='21385] Seriously, every post I've seen you make recently has made me burst out into laughter. Hahahaha. Honey, my main goal in life is to keep you laughing, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yup, she was with them 24 hours a day for their entire childhood so she couldn't have missed anything. That's the entire point -- what she said was related to the limited opportunities she would have had to see Lucy play with the kids. She didn't say "I never saw her play with you...and Willie Mae, Hazel, Wanda, and Frank said the same thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 That's the entire point -- what she said was related to the limited opportunities she would have had to see Lucy play with the kids. She didn't say "I never saw her play with you...and Willie Mae, Hazel, Wanda, and Frank said the same thing." Why did she get so emotional about it though? Was it the way the whole was edited or what, because it seemed like Carole was saying Lucy hated spending time with her kids and would rather be working. That's the way I took it. I like Lucie and everything, but that documentary really shed Lucy in a bad light as a mother and really made it sound as if the sun shone out Desi Sr.'s bum. I think Lucie had some chips on her shoulder back then. She's better now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Why did she get so emotional about it though? Was it the way the whole was edited or what, because it seemed like Carole was saying Lucy hated spending time with her kids and would rather be working. That's the way I took it. I like Lucie and everything, but that documentary really shed Lucy in a bad light as a mother and really made it sound as if the sun shone out Desi Sr.'s bum. I think Lucie had some chips on her shoulder back then. She's better now though. I'm sure it WAS an emotional experience for Carole to talk about Lucy, especially since she felt Gary pushed Lucy's friends from the "Desi Days" away from her. I'm sure she greatly missed her friend and it was probably bittersweet for her to reminisce about Lucy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I'm sure it WAS an emotional experience for Carole to talk about Lucy, especially since she felt Gary pushed Lucy's friends from the "Desi Days" away from her. I'm sure she greatly missed her friend and it was probably bittersweet for her to reminisce about Lucy. Yeah, I know, but I'm talking specifically about the part where she's crying about Lucy "not playing" with her kids. I just thought the emotion was misplaced, if that makes sense. It's like she thought Lucy was not a great mother or severely lacking in that department just because she never saw Lucy "playing" with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 and really made it sound as if the sun shone out Desi Sr.'s bum. Hardly. It certainly didn't make his alcoholism seem fun and glamorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Hardly. It certainly didn't make his alcoholism seem fun and glamorous. I meant as a parent compared to Lucy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 That's the entire point -- what she said was related to the limited opportunities she would have had to see Lucy play with the kids. She didn't say "I never saw her play with you...and Willie Mae, Hazel, Wanda, and Frank said the same thing." I WAS TALKING ABOUT HER PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF LUCIE ARNAZ AND HER CONSTANT WHINING THAT MOMMY WORKED TOO HARD AND WAS OBSESSED WITH HER CAREER AND DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME WITH ME AS A CHILD, it was manipulative and Carole saying what Lucie wanted to hear and in tears yet was just a backstab to me by the woman whose career was started by Lucy. Now please do no reply to this post as it gets me angrier every single time you do. You will not change my mind about this and it all started when i made a good joke about a picture of Lucy cavorting with the little spoiled brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Why did she get so emotional about it though? Was it the way the whole was edited or what, because it seemed like Carole was saying Lucy hated spending time with her kids and would rather be working. That's the way I took it. I like Lucie and everything, but that documentary really shed Lucy in a bad light as a mother and really made it sound as if the sun shone out Desi Sr.'s bum. I think Lucie had some chips on her shoulder back then. She's better now though. EXACTLY, Lucie wa ALWAYS daddy's little girl and even though mommy was there to further her Hollywood dreams her whole life, and she and Desi made these terrific Home Movies and then Lucie wins an Emmy for putting them out and then editing them to her advantage, whining about her upbringing once again. AND Carole allowing herself to be used like that to be included is just another example of people connected to Lucy seeking fame with negative stories about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I'm sure it WAS an emotional experience for Carole to talk about Lucy, especially since she felt Gary pushed Lucy's friends from the "Desi Days" away from her. I'm sure she greatly missed her friend and it was probably bittersweet for her to reminisce about Lucy. TRUE and well said, it could not have been easy to get pushed out like that and that bastard did it to everybody around her who was there from Desi's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yeah, I know, but I'm talking specifically about the part where she's crying about Lucy "not playing" with her kids. I just thought the emotion was misplaced, if that makes sense. It's like she thought Lucy was not a great mother or severely lacking in that department just because she never saw Lucy "playing" with them. Lucy and Fred never played with their mom either and they didn't use that in twenty or thirty years of therapy to get sympathy. I agree with you that it had a Mommie Dearest feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I meant as a parent compared to Lucy. Like Lucy always said, he had them for summer vacation, she had them for the school year, with him it was fun and games and for most of that time he was retired from the business and had all the time in the world to be with them. I absolutely loved your SUN SHINING FROM HIS BUM quote though, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikidiki Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Why did she get so emotional about it though? Was it the way the whole was edited or what, because it seemed like Carole was saying Lucy hated spending time with her kids and would rather be working. That's the way I took it. I like Lucie and everything, but that documentary really shed Lucy in a bad light as a mother and really made it sound as if the sun shone out Desi Sr.'s bum. I think Lucie had some chips on her shoulder back then. She's better now though. I agree actually. I hated the part where they just skimmed through her final years and made out as though The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy were not worthy of anything. You got the impression that once I Love Lucy finished Lucy and Desi were nobodies and hated being around people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I agree actually. I hated the part where they just skimmed through her final years and made out as though The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy were not worthy of anything. You got the impression that once I Love Lucy finished Lucy and Desi were nobodies and hated being around people. Well, there's a reason for that, Lucie was working with the footage her parents filmed when they were younger, the stuff Lucy filmed later on was of no use to her for this documentary, thank God we get to see SOME of it in the new releases, stuff at the house, films with gary, wish we could see more of the really older material like Lucy and Desi in the pool with their first (?) grandchild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 This time Liz meets Lucy's husband: Elizabeth Taylor welcoming Lucy & Desi on to the MGM lot as they begin to film THE LONG LONG TRAILER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Desi and his girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 The family gathers to watch television (I LOVE LUCY?): Desi, Lucy, Lucie, "a young friend", Lucy's nephew and brother-in-law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Lucy and Desi on the town, 1941 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyilove Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Lucy and Desi at home (in the chicken coop), 1942 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 This time Liz meets Lucy's husband: Elizabeth Taylor welcoming Lucy & Desi on to the MGM lot as they begin to film THE LONG LONG TRAILER OMG WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE INCREDIBLE PICTURES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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