Brock Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 A fun and funny segment from 1945 with a (very nasal) young Lucy playing Truth or Consequences with a fresh G.I. and makes an obscene phone call. Lucy comes in to enthusiastic cat calls around 10.45: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9xoGU2jp8 "John and I were just sitting here having fun..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 And in this episode, MGM's own Lucille Ball is our very perky Mistress of Ceremonies, taking the helm of this episode also featuring George and Gracie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgSjepq88nU George: All this because I happened to look at Lucille Ball with a casual little glance? Gracie: Casual? Your eyes moved over her like a Swede looking at a table full of smorgasbords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 i love these old shows! thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 i love these old shows! thanks for sharing The banter between Lucy and Gracie around the 14.20 minute in the second show is priceless. It is wonderful to hear these two geniuses working together, one in her heyday and one a few years away from hitting full bloom. "When you see him in his underwear in the morning...don't laugh... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I hadn't even gotten to the second video but I didn't even pay attention to the title! seeing it now Im LIKE WOW WOW WOW!!! ..listening to it now!!! I can't believe how time and attraction works!!! I was jUST looking at Gracie's biography online- after discovering the show in 2012! (I didn't know Gracie was like the Rose Nylund of her time!- I mean, it could have been the characters mother!) Oh wouldn't that have been nice. to see Rose's mother be a healthy, but aged Gracie (still going at it like Burns) ANYWAY, I was looking at the bio, just the other day!! and I was thinking, after it showed a picture of Gracie and George holding a magazine cover with Lucy on the front- "Aint it a shame, not much is on Lucy and Gracie together" and lo and behold- here it is!!! makes it even more exciting and fun to hear! thanks again for sharing my Brock (gives a big Ricky to Fred side ways shrug hug) lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAPet8z0cdg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's always nice to hear NEW Lucy things, thanks Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I had no idea Lucy HAD worked with Gracie. Just shows you how incomplete those Lucy books are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Im so surprised at how young and high Lucys voice really was. I bet, by the time it really lowered in the 70s, she even had to wonder how a voice could change so drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I hope John in that first clip hung on to the photo, it will become a collector's item in 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Im so surprised at how young and high Lucys voice really was. I bet, by the time it really lowered in the 70s, she even had to wonder how a voice could change so drastically. 60 years of booze & cigarettes, what's the "mystery"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 And pushing her voice higher than it was, and not singing properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 60 years of booze & cigarettes, what's the "mystery"??? You DO know that there are people who have smoked and drank more than Lucy whose voice is no where near as low as hers right?lol ... No matter what the cause was, Id be a little surprised too if I started out as a second soprano and ended up a Baritone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 You DO know that there are people who have smoked and drank more than Lucy whose voice is no where near as low as hers right?lol ... No matter what the cause was, Id be a little surprised too if I started out as a second soprano and ended up a Baritone No shit?? Seriously though if they weren't THE factors they were definitely CONTRIBUTING factors as neither "activity" is healthy and over time, has got to take some toll, however slight, on the body. N'est-ce pas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Jeeze, let's settle down, people. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 60 years of booze & cigarettes, what's the "mystery"??? Cigarettes maybe, but booze?? She didn't have a drinking rep other than a story or two spread around (which I'm convinced were more urban legend than not). I don't know what made Lucy finally quit cigarettes in the 80s but I wouldn't have wanted to be Gary during her withdrawal. Probably considered changing his name back to Goldapper and returning to the Catskills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I had always heard it alleged that in 84' was when she found out she was allergic to them. I don't buy the allergic story. I bet the withdrawal days may have ranked up there with the days after the Palm Springs remodel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Not only that but he also smoked more than she did, who quits and then hangs around with an avid smoker? Second hand smoke alone, LOL! Didn't gary of lung cancer too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yep, lung cancer. The anniversary of his death is next Sunday. Wanna know how I remember? It's my birthday. Died in 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'll burn a candle. For YOUR birthday, not the anniversary of his passing, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 No shit?? Seriously though if they weren't THE factors they were definitely CONTRIBUTING factors as neither "activity" is healthy and over time, has got to take some toll, however slight, on the body. N'est-ce pas?? LOLOL I was gonna run for cover when I wrote that lolol I know I know I know, the ciggys did do her in and lower it- Im just so surprised at how low it got. Deeper than Bea's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Cigarettes maybe, but booze?? She didn't have a drinking rep other than a story or two spread around (which I'm convinced were more urban legend than not). I don't know what made Lucy finally quit cigarettes in the 80s but I wouldn't have wanted to be Gary during her withdrawal. Probably considered changing his name back to Goldapper and returning to the Catskills! I think the doctors told her to stop because of her heart- it was taking its toll by that time, and already having heart issues, she stopped. i have a scanned letter of hers some where, where she asks Gary to forgive her for not being ill, and asks him to stop smoking ti take care of themselves. i have to find that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 There is a Lux radio play called Lucky Partners done in the early 40’s and Lucy’s voice on this is very high. Very similar to her voice here. It took me by surprise and I doubled checked it was her. I think she may have been pushing it higher for the character but why then when she was herself on this other radio show did she push it that high too? Another time her voice amazes me is on a clip from one of those public domain tapes. It’s a promo for Life of a Model that Desilu produced. Joanne Dru comes out and talks with Desi for a bit. Lucy comes out and interrupts. She does all this in her “Lucy” voice and character but then halfway through turns to the camera and the shift to “Lucille” is drastic. She becomes more polished and the voice drops. Not to a bad level but to her normal speaking voice at that time (mid 50s). You so rarely get to hear that normal voice in the 50’s that when we hear the voice more in the 60’s we keep comparing it to what we know from the 50’s which was higher than normal. One quality I always liked in Lucy’s voice is if she uses it right it has a breathy quality to it. Sort of a sexiness to it when she uses it in a more softer, quieter nature. Most evident of this is in Dark Corner but she turns it out many other times in the 40’s and I think she had it in her natural speaking voice too. I think she still could pull it off in the 60’s too. The voice drop was just enough for her to still use it that way. But the 70’s it was too far gone for her to put the subtleness into it to get it to sound breathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmadluv7 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 There is a Lux radio play called Lucky Partners done in the early 40’s and Lucy’s voice on this is very high. Very similar to her voice here. It took me by surprise and I doubled checked it was her. I think she may have been pushing it higher for the character but why then when she was herself on this other radio show did she push it that high too? Another time her voice amazes me is on a clip from one of those public domain tapes. It’s a promo for Life of a Model that Desilu produced. Joanne Dru comes out and talks with Desi for a bit. Lucy comes out and interrupts. She does all this in her “Lucy” voice and character but then halfway through turns to the camera and the shift to “Lucille” is drastic. She becomes more polished and the voice drops. Not to a bad level but to her normal speaking voice at that time (mid 50s). You so rarely get to hear that normal voice in the 50’s that when we hear the voice more in the 60’s we keep comparing it to what we know from the 50’s which was higher than normal. One quality I always liked in Lucy’s voice is if she uses it right it has a breathy quality to it. Sort of a sexiness to it when she uses it in a more softer, quieter nature. Most evident of this is in Dark Corner but she turns it out many other times in the 40’s and I think she had it in her natural speaking voice too. I think she still could pull it off in the 60’s too. The voice drop was just enough for her to still use it that way. But the 70’s it was too far gone for her to put the subtleness into it to get it to sound breathy. I could read this over and over and over. Especially judging the 1960s speaking voice with the 1950s Lucy voice- i never thought of it that way before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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