Luvsbway Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is a great video of singing in the movies and who really was singing for the stars from old Hollywood through Glee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wowXaIuWv0&feature=player_embedded Lucy is shown for Fancy Pants. Jimmy's Lucille Ball FAQ book has a whole chapter on Lucy singing. Everytime she was shown singing in a movie and who was her voice dubber if she had one. It also lists the TV singing appearences too and when that may have been dubbed, usually by Carole Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is a great video of singing in the movies and who really was singing for the stars from old Hollywood through Glee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wowXaIuWv0&feature=player_embedded Lucy is shown for Fancy Pants. Jimmy's Lucille Ball FAQ book has a whole chapter on Lucy singing. Everytime she was shown singing in a movie and who was her voice dubber if she had one. It also lists the TV singing appearences too and when that may have been dubbed, usually by Carole Cook. But you fail to mention that Lucy herself did some voice dubbing and in a movie yet, she subbed for an inebriated Lee Marvin in Cat Balou i think, LOL! She was the ony one whose voice went that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 But you fail to mention that Lucy herself did some voice dubbing and in a movie yet, she subbed for an inebriated Lee Marvin in Cat Balou i think, LOL! She was the ony one whose voice went that low. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 :rolleyes: Oh will you please stick those :rolleyes: where the sun dun't shine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did Annette Warren also dub Lucy in Du Barry was a Lady? Great vid, BTW, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Oh will you please stick those :rolleyes: where the sun dun't shine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did Annette Warren also dub Lucy in Du Barry was a Lady? Great vid, BTW, thanks for sharing! Martha Meers dubbed Lucy in Du Barry Was a Lady and The Big Street. Annette Warren also dubbed Lucy in Sorrowful Jones. Thanks for the plug, Shelly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Martha Meers dubbed Lucy in Du Barry Was a Lady and The Big Street. Annette Warren also dubbed Lucy in Sorrowful Jones. Thanks for the plug, Shelly! Ah, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 But you fail to mention that Lucy herself did some voice dubbing and in a movie yet, she subbed for an inebriated Lee Marvin in Cat Balou i think, LOL! She was the ony one whose voice went that low. She was so successful that when Lee had trouble hitting a low C (2 octaves below middle C) in "Wandering Sign" from "Paint Your Wagon", Lucy's services were needed again. By my calculation Carole dubbed for Lucy only 3 times: Gym Musical with Carol Burnett, Big Spender on the jack Benny special and a couple of lines in "Like Hep". All of these were broadcast in 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Here is a terrific compiliation of actresses dubbed by Martha Mears, including two clips of Lucy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaLDOdLm-Ng Who knew the same person could dub both Lucy and Eva Gabor? Also, I really want to see "They Got Me Covered" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Here is a great video of singing in the movies and who really was singing for the stars from old Hollywood through Glee. Lucy is shown for Fancy Pants. Jimmy's Lucille Ball FAQ book has a whole chapter on Lucy singing. It also lists the TV singing appearences too and when that may have been dubbed, usually by Carole Cook. fascinating! Interesting that singers who could sing were dubbed, particularly Harry Belafonte and Debbie Reynolds. Even Juanita Hall who did the Broadway Bloody Mary is dubbed here, and nothing is gained because Hall's voice is fine for the character. Susan Hayword must have had something of a voice because she did "Mame" on stage--as did, of course, Miss Lansbury. I don't know that it's general known that Rita Hayworth's signature "Put the Blame On Mame" is actually another singer. "Oliver"'s vocals: Where was Kathe Green 5 years later for Kirby Furlong? Kate Smith was seriously considered for that part of Mother Superior in Sound of Music. Though I thought Peggy Wood was great (and a very good lipper), Kate would have knocked "Climb..." our of the convent. The producers decided that having Kate in the part would smack of stunt casting, but I wish they had. Liz did her own singing for "Send in the Clowns" in the (disappointing) movie version of "A Little Night Music" prompting one reviewer to say "well, it's no chart-buster" On a site similar to youtube, VIMEO there are a couple of recovered original vocals which are dubbed back into the move--- to which I say: WHY was dubbing necessary? Joan Crawford and Ava Gardner do perfectly credible jobs. Three of the most convincing dub-jobs of all time where the ghost singers replicated what the non-singer/actor's voice would sound like: Christopher Plummer's Edelweis Marni Nixon for Deborah Kerr in "King&I" Lisa Kirk toning down her strong vocals just enough to replicate Rosalind Russell in Gypsy. She was so close that their two voices were combined in "Rose's Turn" and it's not jarring. One of my long list of regrets for Lucy's "Mame" is why they didn't try that with Lucy's vocals. The rumor was the Lisa was going to dub Lucy's singing which they probably would not gotten away with, but a note here and there would have gone unnoticed. This same vimeo poster who did the Crawford and Gardner clips did his own edit of "Some People" combining Roz and Lisa which works very well. On the CD release of the "Gypsy" soundtrack, Roz's original tracks are included and while dramatically she conveys the emotions, it's painfully obvious that this score was beyond her very limited vocal range. Youtube is so great that we actually get to see these things, although I'm surprised the youtube police allow something like this, given their new copyright stance. And for the record, I stand on my assertion that Carole Cook did Lucy's vocals a total of THREE times--all three aired in 1969, and only one of them was on Here's Lucy ("Carol Burnett/Gym") . It's been written that Carole did Lucy's vocals in the "Unemployment Follies" duets with Carol Burnett, but I for one am not convinced. I'm going to re-read that section of "Senor Know-It-All"'s book to see his opinion of Lucy's vocals in "Dance Girl Dance" which I am convinced is Lucy herself---but it's been written other places that this is a ghost singer. In "Fancy Pants", a couple of phrases are Lucy's voice, I think. Here are the vimeo links to Crawford and Gardner: Enjoy! https://vimeo.com/6280999 https://vimeo.com/14200351 and the Roz/Liza combo https://vimeo.com/21051098 Don't you think this would have worked for "Mame"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Another video of dubbing! I love these compilations. The biggest surprise here for me is Tony Martin being dubbed. I wonder what the backstory is for that. Two other accomplished singers, Dennis Morgan and Patricia Morison, are also dubbed. Allan Jones had prerecorded the number in The Great Ziegfeld before Dennis Morgan was cast and the producers of Patricia Morison's film didn't even bother to ask if she could sing, so that explains them. Several of people featured would go on to have great success in musical theater, including three stars of Follies - Alexis Smith, Gene Nelson, and Yvonne DeCarlo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 But you fail to mention that Lucy herself did some voice dubbing and in a movie yet, she subbed for an inebriated Lee Marvin in Cat Balou i think, LOL! She was the ony one whose voice went that low. I would like to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leenorman Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'd like to see her in a re-creation of the drunk scene Lee did on the horse; what a HOOT THAT would be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Some great fan replaced Lucy's dubbed version of the title song to Fancy Pants with Lucy's sung version from The Lux Radio Theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Love it! Editor did a great job syncing it up because the radio version is much faster. Hopefully, he'll do "Home Cooking". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 It is a great job. Very enjoyable and to me unnecessary to dub but that was common practice back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 if you compare the film version Lucy does have her own voice for some phrases. Very odd to combine. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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