Luvsbway Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 How do we not have a thread for her? I was reading about a Feb, 28, 1954 TV version of Anything Goes with Ethel Merman, Frank Sinatra, and Bert Lahr. I learned this interesting fact. ” In Stephen Cole’s excellent 14-page booklet, he teaches us that Merman requested that the broadcast include “Friendship” (from DuBarry Is a Lady, in which she had co-starred with Lahr 15 years earlier). It’s pretty much been in every edition of Anything Goes ever since – so you have Merman to blame or thank for the insertion.” I always wondered how that song got associated with that show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 How do we not have a thread for her? I was reading about a Feb, 28, 1954 TV version of Anything Goes with Ethel Merman, Frank Sinatra, and Bert Lahr. I learned this interesting fact. ” In Stephen Cole’s excellent 14-page booklet, he teaches us that Merman requested that the broadcast include “Friendship” (from DuBarry Is a Lady, in which she had co-starred with Lahr 15 years earlier). It’s pretty much been in every edition of Anything Goes ever since – so you have Merman to blame or thank for the insertion.” I always wondered how that song got associated with that show. Not only did Lucy do it in that duet with Ethel, but she also did a fantastic version with Gene Kelly on her guest stint on his special recreating the one they did in Dubarry was a lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 By the way, I've always been a fan of The Merm, I always thought her role in Mad Mad World was perfect. One of the all time best Lucy interviews is a tribute to Merman that Merv Griffin did for her when she won the Pied Piper award from the songwriters guild or whatever it's called. Other guests included Ginger Rogers, Lucy and Ginger were surprises to The Merm. Lucy wore the dress she wore on Life with Lucy for her daughter's wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 How do we not have a thread for her? I was reading about a Feb, 28, 1954 TV version of Anything Goes with Ethel Merman, Frank Sinatra, and Bert Lahr. I learned this interesting fact. ” In Stephen Cole’s excellent 14-page booklet, he teaches us that Merman requested that the broadcast include “Friendship” (from DuBarry Is a Lady, in which she had co-starred with Lahr 15 years earlier). It’s pretty much been in every edition of Anything Goes ever since – so you have Merman to blame or thank for the insertion.” I always wondered how that song got associated with that show. There was an early-60s off-Broadway revival with starred Eileen Rogers in the Merman role and Hal Linden as the male lead. This version incorporated a lot of other Porter songs including "Friendship" and with a variation of two, it's been the one used ever since. Even though some of the songs are shoe-horned into the plot, I think it's a good thing because these other Porter shows don't seem to be revived. The off-Broadway mentioned above released an album which I had and loved. Not sure if it ever made it to CD. In the early 80s I saw "AG" tour in a full-out production with 70 year old GINGER ROGERS in the Reno role and SID CAESAR as Moonface. We made Ginger do her "Take Me Back to Manhattan" dance THREE times. She seemed genuinely thrilled that we wouldn't let her leave the stage. Ginger looked fine. The fact that she was 70 did not matter in the least. She did a local TV interview and wore a VEIL. As Elaine Stritch would say: "does anyone still wear.....a veil?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 There was an early-60s off-Broadway revival with starred Eileen Rogers in the Merman role and Hal Linden as the male lead. This version incorporated a lot of other Porter songs including "Friendship" and with a variation of two, it's been the one used ever since. Even though some of the songs are shoe-horned into the plot, I think it's a good thing because these other Porter shows don't seem to be revived. The off-Broadway mentioned above released an album which I had and loved. Not sure if it ever made it to CD. In the early 80s I saw "AG" tour in a full-out production with 70 year old GINGER ROGERS in the Reno role and SID CAESAR as Moonface. We made Ginger do her "Take Me Back to Manhattan" dance THREE times. She seemed genuinely thrilled that we wouldn't let her leave the stage. Ginger looked fine. The fact that she was 70 did not matter in the least. She did a local TV interview and wore a VEIL. As Elaine Stritch would say: "does anyone still wear.....a veil?" LOL! Old Hollywood ladies do, LOL! Ginger, in one of her first Broadway roles sang the incredibly beautiful ballad, THEY'RE WRITING SONGS OF LOVE, BUT NOT FOR ME . . . Saw the movie bio of the great Cole Porter a few weeks ago and absolutely hated it, the way it was done, such a mish mash, but there's no denying his music all the way through this fiasco was excellent. The music, and Kevin Kline's performance were the only two things I loved about the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Oh and by the way, on one of the clips posted here of Lucy, the next wall of choices after it's played had the ladies of RKO reminiscing about their glorious days there, Lucy, Hepburn and yes, Ginger Rogers too, all looking lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 That series I believe was a 5 parter and Lucy is back in the final section talking about the RKO purchase. Not sure if that one ever made it to YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 That series I believe was a 5 parter and Lucy is back in the final section talking about the RKO purchase. Not sure if that one ever made it to YouTube. Nope, this is the one where they're just starting out, mention of Lela Rogers and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 She did a local TV interview and wore a VEIL. As Elaine Stritch would say: "does anyone still wear.....a veil?" I assume it was a JC Penney's veil. I love Ethel Merman. I think this audio clip from her famous 1977 concert with Mary Martin might be my favorite vocal performance by The Merm. Merman, nearly 70, belts out Blow, Gabriel, Blow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I figure this is as good a place as any to post this.... If anyone is in New York or Los Angeles on September 13 and 14, the Paley Center for Media will be doing a screening of weird, wild, and wonderful unsold sitcom pilots. Among those is Ethel Merman's Maggie Brown, which Lucy was very involved in behind the scenes, as well as Desi's Carol Channing Show. Here's the list of what's being shown: Maggie Brown Ethel Merman plays the title character, a widowed saloon owner in a place called Lobster Island. Merman belts out two songs she introduced on Broadway: "Friendship" and "Mutual Admiration Society," the latter a duet with Bye Bye Birdie's Susan Watson, who plays Maggie's teenage daughter. (1963; 28 minutes) The Carol Channing Show Carol Channing plays Carol Honeycutt, a small town woman who moves to New York City to try to make it in show business. This proposed series was produced and directed by Desi Arnaz, created by I Love Lucy writers Madelyn Davis and Bob Carroll Jr., featured theme music by Jerry Herman, and costarred Richard Deacon and Jane Dulo. (1966; 37 minutes) The Laughmakers Written by Woody Allen, this pilot centers on an improv troupe played by Paul Hampton, Alan Alda, Sandy Baron, and Louise Lasser (who would later marry Allen) who perform at a Greenwich Village club called the Freudian Slip and what happens when a new player (Marilyn Sobol) joins their group. (1962; 27 minutes) Where's Everett? Alan Alda returns in this fantastical story of an average married man who discovers an invisible alien baby on his doorstep. His family names this unseen creature Everett and takes him into their home. (1966; 26 minutes) The Shameful Secrets of Hastings Corner Years before such shows as Soap and Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, this soap opera spoof contains all the necessary ingredients including evil twins, amnesia, and kidnapping. Hal Linden, Karen Black, and Alan Oppenheimer are among the stars of this show about a small town like Peyton Place and the family rivalries and scandals there. (1969; 26 minutes) MacLeish and the Rented Kid Dick Van Dyke stars as a free-spirited cartoonist raising the eleven-year-old son of a friend. Van Dyke was displeased by the final result and dissuaded ABC from turning the property into a series. (1975; 25 minutes) http://www.paleycenter.org/pp-grounded-pilots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Where's Everett? Alan Alda returns in this fantastical story of an average married man who discovers an invisible alien baby on his doorstep. His family names this unseen creature Everett and takes him into their home. (1966; 26 minutes) lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 lol That's the perfect reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 And you have to wonder how a wunnerful pilot like that got passed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 And you have to wonder how a wunnerful pilot like that got passed over. James Aubrey was too busy picking up his friends' pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is THAT why that jerk screwed up Lucy by never buying HER product at Desilu. Thanks, always wanted to know why Lucy always said she could never sell anything during the aubrey regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 This conjures up so many questions. The first of which, and not the last: If it's invisible how does he know it's an alien baby? And where do the plots go from the discover? Enrolling the invisible alien in nursery school? Did this one run an installment of "Vacation Playhouse"? Carol Channing's pilot was on the Mothers In Law disc and it's truly awful, but great that they restored it for the DVD. Just goes to show that all the best creative minds AND a bankable star can still come up short. I've seen "Maggie" but a horrible print of it so it would be nice to see it in pristine form. I think this one had series potential. I've never quite understood why Lucy didn't have more clout with CBS, since she was arguably their greatest asset. Her Desilu pilots were no worse than some of the shows CBS picked and better than a lot. You'd think she could have appealed to Paley and bypassed Aubrey. Her annual threat to cease production of "the Lucy Show" and concentrate more on Desilu did not seem to have the desired affect. Where's Everett?Alan Alda returns in this fantastical story of an average married man who discovers an invisible alien baby on his doorstep. His family names this unseen creature Everett and takes him into their home. (1966; 26 minutes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Carol Channing's pilot was on the Mothers In Law disc and it's truly awful, but great that they restored it for the DVD. Just goes to show that all the best creative minds AND a bankable star can still come up short. I agree, it is awful, but the dance scene at the end did, IMO, show a nugget of potential. Carol was hilarious there. It seems the show was done essentially on the fly, considering they didn't re-shoot the "How do!" opening scene where Channing clearly had ample flecks of foam in the corners of her mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 This conjures up so many questions. The first of which, and not the last: If it's invisible how does he know it's an alien baby? And where do the plots go from the discover? Enrolling the invisible alien in nursery school? Did this one run an installment of "Vacation Playhouse"? Carol Channing's pilot was on the Mothers In Law disc and it's truly awful, but great that they restored it for the DVD. Just goes to show that all the best creative minds AND a bankable star can still come up short. Where's Everett? was aired on CBS on April 18, 1966, but not as part of Vacation Playhouse. It replaced Hazel, which had ended the previous week. Alan and family knew the invisible baby was an alien because he eventually saw the space ship that dropped off the baby. I have no idea how they thought this was a sustainable premise. I think The Carol Channing Show is hilarious, but I don't think I find it funny in the way it was meant to be funny. It is so over the top. The pilot had a sponsor (General Foods) and was supposed to go to series, but Carol backed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I agree, it is awful, but the dance scene at the end did, IMO, show a nugget of potential. Carol was hilarious there. It seems the show was done essentially on the fly, considering they didn't re-shoot the "How do!" opening scene where Channing clearly had ample flecks of foam in the corners of her mouth. I don't think they planned on the dance sequence being in the pilot. Nobody in that scene is credited in the end credits and in Carol's epilogue she refers to her disastrous stint at the restaurant ("Mama mia!") as if that's what we just saw happen and the dance hall is not mentioned. The runtime for the pilot is an odd 37 minutes. I wonder if they filmed the dance hall sequence and decided to cut it or if they filmed it later and decided to insert into the finished pilot. It's all very unusual to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leenorman Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I figure this is as good a place as any to post this.... If anyone is in New York or Los Angeles on September 13 and 14, the Paley Center for Media will be doing a screening of weird, wild, and wonderful unsold sitcom pilots. Among those is Ethel Merman's Maggie Brown, which Lucy was very involved in behind the scenes, as well as Desi's Carol Channing Show. Here's the list of what's being shown: Maggie Brown Ethel Merman plays the title character, a widowed saloon owner in a place called Lobster Island. Merman belts out two songs she introduced on Broadway: "Friendship" and "Mutual Admiration Society," the latter a duet with Bye Bye Birdie's Susan Watson, who plays Maggie's teenage daughter. (1963; 28 minutes) The Carol Channing Show Carol Channing plays Carol Honeycutt, a small town woman who moves to New York City to try to make it in show business. This proposed series was produced and directed by Desi Arnaz, created by I Love Lucy writers Madelyn Davis and Bob Carroll Jr., featured theme music by Jerry Herman, and costarred Richard Deacon and Jane Dulo. (1966; 37 minutes) The Laughmakers Written by Woody Allen, this pilot centers on an improv troupe played by Paul Hampton, Alan Alda, Sandy Baron, and Louise Lasser (who would later marry Allen) who perform at a Greenwich Village club called the Freudian Slip and what happens when a new player (Marilyn Sobol) joins their group. (1962; 27 minutes) Where's Everett? Alan Alda returns in this fantastical story of an average married man who discovers an invisible alien baby on his doorstep. His family names this unseen creature Everett and takes him into their home. (1966; 26 minutes) The Shameful Secrets of Hastings Corner Years before such shows as Soap and Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, this soap opera spoof contains all the necessary ingredients including evil twins, amnesia, and kidnapping. Hal Linden, Karen Black, and Alan Oppenheimer are among the stars of this show about a small town like Peyton Place and the family rivalries and scandals there. (1969; 26 minutes) MacLeish and the Rented Kid Dick Van Dyke stars as a free-spirited cartoonist raising the eleven-year-old son of a friend. Van Dyke was displeased by the final result and dissuaded ABC from turning the property into a series. (1975; 25 minutes) http://www.paleycenter.org/pp-grounded-pilots Harry: Do you have filming dates, airing dates; instead of just years? I'd love the actual ones for the chronology; IMDb does not show them. Thanks if you can get. or steer me to the proper site to find them. I have Maggie Brown; just the Carol Channing Show dates would be great! Don't need the 'others', just Desilu products. Thanks. Loving you, JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 The show is a perfect example of why you can't give prop comedy to anybody. There's only one person who might have been able to pull off the electric knife business. Lucy made those sorts of bits look so organic that we forget what a master she was at it sometimes. I don't think they planned on the dance sequence being in the pilot. Nobody in that scene is credited in the end credits and in Carol's epilogue she refers to her disastrous stint at the restaurant ("Mama mia!") as if that's what we just saw happen and the dance hall is not mentioned. The runtime for the pilot is an odd 37 minutes. I wonder if they filmed the dance hall sequence and decided to cut it or if they filmed it later and decided to insert into the finished pilot. It's all very unusual to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Harry: Do you have filming dates, airing dates; instead of just years? I'd love the actual ones for the chronology; IMDb does not show them. Thanks if you can get. or steer me to the proper site to find them. I have Maggie Brown; just the Carol Channing Show dates would be great! Don't need the 'others', just Desilu products. Thanks. Loving you, JK The Carol Channing Show never aired, so there is no air date. I'm sorry, but I don't know the filming date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 And I meant that sometimes we forget, not sometimes she was a master. There may be something I'm forgetting but I can't think of a time when it was obvious Lucy was doing some "accident" on purpose---such as Carol holding the electric knife abnormally high to cut the lights strung over the restaurant. With the I Love Lucy team at the helm and Carol at her popularity peak with Hello Dolly and some well-received TV specials, it would have seemed a sure thing. The show is a perfect example of why you can't give prop comedy to anybody. There's only one person who might have been able to pull off the electric knife business. Lucy made those sorts of bits look so organic that we forget what a master she was at it sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I guess it was just another example of somebody being the ultimate in talent and yet getting the wrong group of people together, sorta like Bette Midler's show decades later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieMertz Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Carol's show was truly awful but the theme song (composed by Jerry Herman) May be my all time favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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