Brock Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 but the center continues to call their reactions "unnecessary". As are all reactions, it seems, to some of their more... "half-baked" isn't the phrase I am looking for, but ideas that are not as well and thoroughly considered as others. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappy Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Why didn't the Center say that these outfits were dupicates. And why would Lucy have two sewing kits, identical? Something is so wrong here... Hear me now, believe me later. I am here in Jamestown. I see the day to day horsecrap happening. Something is up here. I think Journey should move to the train station and leave Lucy alone. Lucy can stand on her own. This years logo for the festival is a microphone that doesn't even have an image of Lucy on it. SERIOUSLY. Wake up lounge. This is about Lucille Ball, not a comedy hall of fame. I say they leave all memorablia alone in the archives. Let them sustain their own comedy if it's so great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappy Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 PS-I paid $2500.00 to belong to the acquisitions fund of the Center. When did acquistions mean selling? There are many names are on that plaque. Wyman spent the acquisitions money and now Journey is getting rid of the goods. Boy oh boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was anything actually acquired through the acquisitions funding group/membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Is the Mame outfit a triplicate? One at the Museum, one late of Universal LA for the auction, and one remaining in Universal Orlando? You mean the Universal Orlando tribute is still there??! How cool!! I just figured when it went away here (Hollywood), they took it down there too! Woohoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desiluforever Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Has anyone actually talked to Journey about this? It seems nobody ever gets to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Has anyone actually talked to Journey? It seems nobody ever gets to. Why, did a dome fall around her?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desiluforever Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Why, did a dome fall around her?? I will say the center is being very responsive with the subject. Apparently the Chaplin outfit is a duplicate as well. They told me- "Often television duplicates outfits were made in case if the actor spill something, got too sweaty, etc on the costume. They could simply change and continue filming." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Really? For a special they made a dup of one outfit that she only wears for a short time. Lucy was known for wearing clothes on her shows over and over. Shouldn't we be seeing more clothes then if everything got made twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Really? For a special they made a dup of one outfit that she only wears for a short time. Lucy was known for wearing clothes on her shows over and over. Shouldn't we be seeing more clothes then if everything got made twice? Oh, I'm sure those will be included in the next year's auction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Hepburn Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 What Ric Wyman didn't have the balls to steal, Journey Gunderson has the nerve to sell. Gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 What Ric Wyman didn't have the balls to steal, Journey Gunderson has the nerve to sell. Gross. Thanks for mentioning her last name, I kept thinking, WHAT THE HELL DOES THE ROCK GROUP "JOURNEY" HAVE TO DO WITH LUCY ANYWAY? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvsbway Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Don't Stop Believing, that the center will do anything for a buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneFan Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I was totally shocked and disgusted to see that they're selling Lucy artifacts (they claim it's memorabilia), duplicates or no duplicates. Like Rappy, I dropped $2,500 to join the Acquisitions Society. Even if that money's gone, I certainly don't want artifacts sold....the nerve! If they start selling the artifacts now, where will they stop? Will they sell all of the artifacts? They really need to check their records on the artifacts/memorabilia, if indeed there are any. I hope they're not planning to sell stuff that's on loan? Under what conditions were items donated to the Center? If they even have such information. I have worked in archival settings and I can tell you that archives do have standards and donors are known to put certain conditions on what they donate. Mary Jane Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneFan Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I wonder what would happen if some or all of us on this forum would buy the memorabilia/artifacts and donate them back to the Center? Would they try selling them again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I wonder what would happen if some or all of us on this forum would buy the memorabilia/artifacts and donate them back to the Center? Would they try selling them again? Given the current climate, I think that is a recipe for disaster, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I wonder what would happen if some or all of us on this forum would buy the memorabilia/artifacts and donate them back to the Center? Would they try selling them again? I'd love to do that but my checkbook just laughed and said it ain't got no time fo dat. lol. I say we all boycott the auction and maybe no one will show up. Yeah...right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I was totally shocked and disgusted to see that they're selling Lucy artifacts (they claim it's memorabilia), duplicates or no duplicates. Like Rappy, I dropped $2,500 to join the Acquisitions Society. Even if that money's gone, I certainly don't want artifacts sold....the nerve! If they start selling the artifacts now, where will they stop? Will they sell all of the artifacts? They really need to check their records on the artifacts/memorabilia, if indeed there are any. I hope they're not planning to sell stuff that's on loan? Under what conditions were items donated to the Center? If they even have such information. I have worked in archival settings and I can tell you that archives do have standards and donors are known to put certain conditions on what they donate. Mary Jane Fan You had two thousand five hundred dollars to give them????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappy Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 The new comedy is all the Center cares about. They are throwing a few Lucy events into the train station to attract the crowd. By 2015, they plan on everything being the comedy hall of fame. Lucy will be in the background. The center went all winter with bare shelves in the shops. Now they stock up to draw a crowd. I am around town enough to see and hear what's going on. It sucks to watch this unravel. I thank God every day for owning Lucy's house and having full control of keeping it the way it is. I regret everything that I have done and everything I have given to the Center:( They have no respect for what is there, and worse, they don't take care of the stuff they have. Finding the original contract for Beauty for The Asking laying on shelf in a hallway with books and papers 5 years after I donated it made me sick! It wasn't even in the archives:( Sure wish someone would see the importance of this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jab5983 Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 So sad! The people running the center don't appreciate or love lucy. They care about money and the comedy hall of fame (which I think will fail miserably). Lucy will continue to disappear from center. Imagine what the center/festival could be like of there was a real lucy fans running the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappy Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Brock, the acquisitions fund actually paid Jane Withers(Josephine the plumber) for a coat that she had that belonged to Lucy. Ric actually bought the coat before getting approval from the board. Everything at that place is an episode. The coat was $1500.00. I have no clue how many folks paid $2500.00. I would have to go there and count the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappy Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think Jessica should come and be the new E.D. The place would not only be preserved, but the festivals would be all LUCY related. After all, without Lucy, we don't need to be there:( Who the hell is going to the Hall of Fame, except once! Once you see it, it's done. Like every other attraction in every town. Lucy is timeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Brock, the acquisitions fund actually paid Jane Withers(Josephine the plumber) for a coat that she had that belonged to Lucy. Ric actually bought the coat before getting approval from the board. Everything at that place is an episode. The coat was $1500.00. I have no clue how many folks paid $2500.00. I would have to go there and count the names. Interesting -- but that coat so far has yet to be displayed, right? Who the hell is going to the Hall of Fame, except once! Once you see it, it's done. Like every other attraction in every town. Lucy is timeless. To play Devil's advocate though, if done right the Comedy Hall of Fame will bring lots of people back every year if they have, for instance, induction ceremonies each year for new inductees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 The new comedy is all the Center cares about. They are throwing a few Lucy events into the train station to attract the crowd. By 2015, they plan on everything being the comedy hall of fame. Lucy will be in the background. The center went all winter with bare shelves in the shops. Now they stock up to draw a crowd. I am around town enough to see and hear what's going on. It sucks to watch this unravel. I thank God every day for owning Lucy's house and having full control of keeping it the way it is. I regret everything that I have done and everything I have given to the Center:( They have no respect for what is there, and worse, they don't take care of the stuff they have. Finding the original contract for Beauty for The Asking laying on shelf in a hallway with books and papers 5 years after I donated it made me sick! It wasn't even in the archives:( Sure wish someone would see the importance of this stuff. O M G why in hell don't the board of directors smarten up and GET someone who LOVES Lucy and could run the center properly, were YOU ever a candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Interesting -- but that coat so far has yet to be displayed, right? To play Devil's advocate though, if done right the Comedy Hall of Fame will bring lots of people back every year if they have, for instance, induction ceremonies each year for new inductees. We did that HERE in Montreal for the comedy festival but you know what brings in people? A BIG STAR like this year Joan Rivers is coming back, Kathy Griffin is also here, I got tickets for both. Went to the Comedy Museum here just the one time, no LUCY in there. But I understand Lucy does not belong in a stand up comedy festival, but she sure belongs in a COMEDY museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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