upperco Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 About to start watching Season Four for the first time since getting the DVD. That was my first time seeing any of these episodes, and I remember "Lucy and the Golden Greek" being one of my favorites from the season. Loved the introduction of Mary Jane, and it reminded me of Season One as the plot involved Lucy dating. If I recall, this isn't a universally loved installment. What does everyone think of this episode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Kampen Tripp Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I like it a lot... I like how she wears heals... and realizing he is a short fella.. switches to flats... I like her dress... I like how Mary Jane and Lucy interact... I thoroughly enjoy this episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I enjoyed this episode too. The second act was a little forced but funny. I also liked the opening sequence. I think the character of Mary Jane had a solid introduction and I enjoyed her recapping Lucy's history. At least the writers provided numerous Danfield references this season to help provide some continuity. The transition may have been abrupt but it was handled better than a lot of shows that have undergone retooling. At least Viv and the kids weren't dropped with out explanation the way some characters on 'Ellen" were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Absolutely loved it from start to finish. Just great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wilson Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 One of my favorites from season four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryCarter Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Although I don't think the finale makes any sense, there's a lot I like in this episode. I love all the interaction between Lucy and Mary Jane. This is how Mary Jane should have been used on The Lucy Show instead of having her just be there for Lucy to tell her latest idea. Garry Marshall and Jerry Belson probably did the best writing for Mary Jane on The Lucy Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Although I don't think the finale makes any sense, there's a lot I like in this episode. I love all the interaction between Lucy and Mary Jane. This is how Mary Jane should have been used on The Lucy Show instead of having her just be there for Lucy to tell her latest idea. Garry Marshall and Jerry Belson probably did the best writing for Mary Jane on The Lucy Show. Totally agree about the finale. Fidelman was right that it was poorly motivated. But the setup makes it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Totally agree about the finale. Fidelman was right that it was poorly motivated. But the setup makes it worthwhile. Oh don't go by HIM, he hated most shows done AFTER I Love Lucy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Oh don't go by HIM, he hated most shows done AFTER I Love Lucy. Yeah, some of his comments about the various episodes of the later Lucy programs were over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Kampen Tripp Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Well..compared to I Love Lucy....later shows aren't as good. I Love Lucy is.VERY hard to top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Well..compared to I Love Lucy....later shows aren't as good. I Love Lucy is.VERY hard to top. And that's the problem. People can't help but compare her later programs to her original instead of evaluating them on their own merits (just like they would do with any other show). And it's no wonder why they are hardly on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 And that's the problem. People can't help but compare her later programs to her original instead of evaluating them on their own merits (just like they would do with any other show). And it's no wonder why they are hardly on the air. EXACTLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Oh don't go by HIM, he hated most shows done AFTER I Love Lucy. I don't agree with all his assessments but I think Fidelman made some very good points. And I think he was right about this episode. It is funny, but not especially well motivated. The best moments are the early ones between Lucy and Mary Jane to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't agree with all his assessments but I think Fidelman made some very good points. And I think he was right about this episode. It is funny, but not especially well motivated. The best moments are the early ones between Lucy and Mary Jane to me. What show did fiddlesticks ever write, produce or act in??? LOL! Criticizing is the easiest thing to do, I should know, I do it all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 What show did fiddlesticks ever write, produce or act in??? LOL! Criticizing is the easiest thing to do, I should know, I do it all day. His bio in the back of The Lucy Book says he penned a script for a Little Ricky sitcom pilot. So, there's that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeySanJoaquin Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 His bio in the back of The Lucy Book says he penned a script for a Little Ricky sitcom pilot. So, there's that... Ah HA! Talk about "BItter Grapes"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Morenzi Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 What show did fiddlesticks ever write, produce or act in??? LOL! Criticizing is the easiest thing to do, I should know, I do it all day. But what about all the nice things he did say? It wasn't just negativity. He spoke highly of most episodes, and I thought he provided good explanations for the ones he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 His bio in the back of The Lucy Book says he penned a script for a Little Ricky sitcom pilot. So, there's that... Actually there should have been a sitcom running concurrently to the Europe episodes set in New York about Little Ricky and the misadventures under the care of scatterbrained Mrs. McGillicuddy entitled "Hello, Florence" complete with flashbacks to their cross country plane trip to Hollywood. Let's see.... "Mrs. McGillcuddy books passage on a bargain flight to Bombay knowing full well she can talk the pilot into making an unscheduled stop at LAX." Mrs.McGillicuddy: "All he has to do is push the steering wheel". Would YOU leave your toddler in Mrs. M's care??? I smell some spin-off plots in the works....And come to think of it, "Florence" would have been a good first name for Mrs. M. About "Golden Greek". I too like the set up very much with Lucy and Mary Jane (though I don't care for Marshall-Belson scripts as a whole). I've NEVER liked the sitcom premise where somebody hears music and it makes them act maniacally different. Though it's been done and done ("KO Kitty" for one), I hate it because there's no basis in reality. Have you ever known anyone who went crazy when they heard a certain type of music? Well, maybe Joey and Claude when the song "It's Raining Men" plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Kampen Tripp Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Too bad we don't see Lucy's dress ever again....so unlike her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 His bio in the back of The Lucy Book says he penned a script for a Little Ricky sitcom pilot. So, there's that... Yeah, well how did THAT turn out for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 About "Golden Greek". I too like the set up very much with Lucy and Mary Jane (though I don't care for Marshall-Belson scripts " as a whole. " What did YOU call Marshall and Benson? as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 anyone who went crazy when they heard a certain type of music? Well, maybe Joey and Claude when the song "It's Raining Men" plays. Are you kidding, I just did after just reading your words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yeah, well how did THAT turn out for him? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Are you kidding, I just did after just reading your words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hw3TiwyBDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C L A U D E Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Exactly. Oh so that's why he was such a bitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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